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  • Ashroyer05
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 162
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    #1

    How the boards communicate?

    I am a recent grad in electronics so I have a lot of theory and some hands on. Since I have started fixing tv`s (and in some cases attempting) I am curious in how the circuits communicate and in what sequence. The power supply is in standby when plugged in then the main board tells the psu to activate a higher voltage? Is that correct and what happens after?
  • Ashroyer05
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 162
    • U.S

    #2
    Re: How the boards communicate?

    More precisely I'm curious in the signals between the boards. If a psu goes high voltage is the signal from the main a constant high for that duration or does the signal go low and then high again when the main wants the psu to reduce voltage back to standby voltage?

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #3
      Re: How the boards communicate?

      The signals from the main board to the power supply board and to the inverter boards are usually active HI, it is steady state, usually the HI can be from 2~5V, <1 = LO. Some manufacturers may use active LO. Read the basic troubleshooting guide below.
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • cheapie
        null
        • Jul 2010
        • 849
        • USA

        #4
        Re: How the boards communicate?

        In computers, the power supply starts out only supplying only the 5 volt standby (purple wire). When the power button is pressed, the motherboard connects PS_ON (green wire) to ground. This causes 12V (yellow), 5V (red), 3.3V (orange), -12V (blue), and "Power Good" (gray) to come on. When the computer wants to shut down, PS_ON is disconnected from ground, which causes the power supply to switch back to only supplying the 5 volt standby. TVs work in a similar manner.

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        • Ashroyer05
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2013
          • 162
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          #5
          Re: How the boards communicate?

          Thanks guys. I'm learning more already.

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          • Ashroyer05
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2013
            • 162
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            #6
            Re: How the boards communicate?

            Does the psu supply a voltage to the mother boards to turn it on and then the motherboard returns a separate voltage back to the psu to have it go to full voltage? I'm confused because a tv i'm working on now it has 3.2 all the time in one pin. When I turn the tv on another pin goes to 5.18 until the screen shuts off then back to 0 but the other pin with 3.2 stays the same. OR does the motherboard operate off of standby voltage. the thing is though that the 5 v pin goes high even with the mother board disconnected, so I know the mother board is not the one sending the 5v back. So basically my psu wants to send 3.2v and 5.18v to the mother board.

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #7
              Re: How the boards communicate?

              The mother board or the main board will be running of the 'ALWAYS ON' standby power supply (it can be 3.3V STBY or 5VSTBY. The stby power supply will run the minute you plug the power cord into the AC outlet, this STBY is used to run the uController or CPU (not all the function of the u or CPU will be running) which is awake just enough to get the ON signal from the soft switch or from the remote, once it receives the signal, the main board will send the signal to turn on the rest of the power supply.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • Ashroyer05
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2013
                • 162
                • U.S

                #8
                Re: How the boards communicate?

                So the main board will send a separate singal back to the psu to go full power? Will this be on a separate pin? How much voltage does it send the 2-5?

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: How the boards communicate?

                  For TV, the signal is usually labeled with PS_ON, or STBY, or PWR_ON. < 1VDC is OFF 2~5VDC is ON. Read basic guide below.
                  https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=25810

                  You can also read the training manual.
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                  Last edited by budm; 10-09-2013, 08:41 PM.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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