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  • bohaboha
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Nov 2012
    • 973
    • sweden

    #1

    Soldering  'Pens Tip Became BLACK

    Hi everyone I have a big problem with my soldering pens tip they are turning black and I can't get them to shine. have tried several methods without success, do you have any tips or how do you go about solving the problem?
  • diif
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2014
    • 6978
    • England

    #2
    Brass sponge.
    Are you cleaning the pcb/area before work ?
    What temperatures, flux and iron are you using ?
    Last edited by diif; 02-08-2024, 01:52 AM.

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    • stj
      Great Sage 齊天大聖
      • Dec 2009
      • 31015
      • Albion

      #3
      too much heat
      dont solder above 350'

      you can get tip renewer from aliexpress that seems to contain a mix of powdered solder and amonia crystals but it doesnt last once you burn the plating on the tip

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      • bohaboha
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Nov 2012
        • 973
        • sweden

        #4
        Originally posted by diif
        Brass sponge.
        Are you cleaning the pcb/area before work ?
        What temperatures, flux and iron are you using ?
        Hi the ones in question are cheap varieties, an old Weller non-adjustable and FixPoint adjustable for flux I use GumRosin which I dilate in IPA or Acetone.
        I don't even have time to solder, they turn black at once. with FixPoint 350 degrees.​

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        • petehall347
          Badcaps Legend
          • Jan 2015
          • 4426
          • United Kingdom

          #5
          pay cheap get cheap

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          • bohaboha
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Nov 2012
            • 973
            • sweden

            #6
            Originally posted by petehall347
            pay cheap get cheap
            I know, but how do you make sure your soldering iron is in good shape, any tips?

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            • diif
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2014
              • 6978
              • England

              #7
              You could try using some shop bought flux, this would identify if the problem is the flux or the iron.

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              • harp
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Jun 2022
                • 598
                • Planet Earth

                #8
                Can you provide some photo or video clip about that, after cleaning and after became black?
                In order to tip stay shiny, the tin must difuse and legure the base material, like copper, nickel... in cheap one this is iron tip (ferro) with galvanized coating who not last long. Some tips have only core of copper, bras or bronze, arounded with ferro, so the tin cant move up to heat.
                With process of leguring tip with tin, tip (copper) is slowely soluable in liquid tin, and wear, so some maintance may be necesary.

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                • stj
                  Great Sage 齊天大聖
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 31015
                  • Albion

                  #9
                  something is wrong here.
                  either the iron is a lot hotter than expected or the "flux" is corrosive shit intended for plumbing

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                  • CapLeaker
                    Leaking Member
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 8146
                    • Canada

                    #10
                    I think petehall347 nailed it. Pay cheap, get cheap. Or you have waaaay to much heat, not use enough flux and don't clean the tip often. If your tip is black, something is off.

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                    • petehall347
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 4426
                      • United Kingdom

                      #11
                      flux will burn black if too hot . also if conformal coating isnt first removed from the pcb might burn black .

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                      • petehall347
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 4426
                        • United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bohaboha

                        I know, but how do you make sure your soldering iron is in good shape, any tips?
                        first buy quality then use properly .

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                        • stj
                          Great Sage 齊天大聖
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 31015
                          • Albion

                          #13
                          i just realised the pictures are missing!

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