NextWave TDR-3100 bad caps on logic board caused by PSU

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  • japlytic
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2005
    • 2086
    • Australia

    #1

    NextWave TDR-3100 bad caps on logic board caused by PSU

    The power supply circuit: http://www.eserviceinfo.com/download..._TDR-3100.html
    It was flashing on and off, making a whistling noise which went on and off.
    A few bulging Luxon GR Series capacitors on the logic board were removed, and this temporally fixed this problem.
    But the tuner voltage (typically 30V) was excessive (and rising! - but did not damage the tuner! )
    C15 in the power supply was too hot to touch, and it was found that the capacitors on the +5V rail (the only one being monitored) were faulty (but not bulging).
    So all of the capacitors (except the 400V unit) were replaced in the power supply, along with a couple on the logic board. They included the ones near the power supply connector and under the tuner (a bit difficult to get at! - with 105C units - an apparently hot area).
    The problem was fixed completely.

    The reason why the capacitors on the logic board failed is when C15 went bad, the 30V rail increased beyond the 35V rating of the capacitors on the logic board connected to the 30V rail, causing them to fail.
    One other thing: Why would such a supply have 30V connected to the optocoupler - where 3.3V or 5V is typically connected to the optocoupler.
    My first choice in quality Japanese electrolytics is Nippon Chemi-Con, which has been in business since 1931... the quality of electronics is dependent on the quality of the electrolytics.
  • PeteS in CA
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    • Aug 2005
    • 3581
    • USA, Unsure of Planet

    #2
    Re: NextWave TDR-3100 bad caps on logic board caused by PSU

    Well, looks like the +30V O/P is the main O/P, the O/P regulated thru the feedback loop. It's a flyback ("ring choke") topology, where the "O/P inductor" is the transformer primary. The +5V and +21V O/Ps are semi-regulated, and the +12V is post regulated by a 7812 3-T regulator.
    PeteS in CA

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    • japlytic
      Badcaps Legend
      • Oct 2005
      • 2086
      • Australia

      #3
      Re: NextWave TDR-3100 bad caps on logic board caused by PSU

      The +5V is well regulated, along with +12V coming through a voltage regulator.
      As I said before, the PSU only monitors the +5V rail.
      My first choice in quality Japanese electrolytics is Nippon Chemi-Con, which has been in business since 1931... the quality of electronics is dependent on the quality of the electrolytics.

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      • PeteS in CA
        Badcaps Legend
        • Aug 2005
        • 3581
        • USA, Unsure of Planet

        #4
        Re: NextWave TDR-3100 bad caps on logic board caused by PSU

        Oops! I didn't look carefully enough. You're right, the main loop controls the +5V. The +30V that connects to the opto is also supplying current to the TL431. IIRC, a TL431 needs on the order of 5 or 10 mA for it to operate without oscillating, which makes using the +30V necessary.
        PeteS in CA

        Power Supplies should be boring: No loud noises, no bright flashes, and no bad smells.
        ****************************
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