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    #21
    Re: Which nVidia mobo chipsets are bad?

    Originally posted by mockingbird View Post
    That's because you don't have the right drivers. nForce 4 is solid, except for the LAN when you have the hardware-based firewall enabled. This was known to cause crashing.
    I've tried it in XP with the latest Nvidia drivers, and without. On an affected board it doesn't make one bit of difference which drivers it's running.

    How is one supposed to install Windows then?

    How is one supposed to run Linux?
    A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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      #22
      Re: Which nVidia mobo chipsets are bad?

      Don't use "latest" official nVidia drivers. There's a forum out there with much better drivers. I don't remember off-hand where it is, try the laptopvideo2go forums, they also have later drivers.
      "We have offered them (the Arabs) a sensible way for so many years. But no, they wanted to fight. Fine! We gave them technology, the latest, the kind even Vietnam didn't have. They had double superiority in tanks and aircraft, triple in artillery, and in air defense and anti-tank weapons they had absolute supremacy. And what? Once again they were beaten. Once again they scrammed [sic]. Once again they screamed for us to come save them. Sadat woke me up in the middle of the night twice over the phone, 'Save me!' He demanded to send Soviet troops, and immediately! No! We are not going to fight for them."

      -Leonid Brezhnev (On the Yom Kippur War)

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        #23
        Re: Which nVidia mobo chipsets are bad?

        And who the **** is supposed to know that?

        OBTW, it happens in Linux too.

        If one needs to use special drivers that exist only on an internet forum something is seriously wrong.
        A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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          #24
          Re: Which nVidia mobo chipsets are bad?

          Originally posted by acstech View Post
          And who the **** is supposed to know that?
          I recall seeing someone mention Omega drivers.

          http://www.omegadrivers.net/
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            #25
            Re: Which nVidia mobo chipsets are bad?

            Haha, Omega.... I haven't used that for ten years...
            "We have offered them (the Arabs) a sensible way for so many years. But no, they wanted to fight. Fine! We gave them technology, the latest, the kind even Vietnam didn't have. They had double superiority in tanks and aircraft, triple in artillery, and in air defense and anti-tank weapons they had absolute supremacy. And what? Once again they were beaten. Once again they scrammed [sic]. Once again they screamed for us to come save them. Sadat woke me up in the middle of the night twice over the phone, 'Save me!' He demanded to send Soviet troops, and immediately! No! We are not going to fight for them."

            -Leonid Brezhnev (On the Yom Kippur War)

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              #26
              Re: Which nVidia mobo chipsets are bad?

              If I recall correctly...when installing the official Nvidia drivers, it presents you with a prompt as to whether or not you want to enable active armor, which is the buggy firewall.

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                #27
                Re: Which nVidia mobo chipsets are bad?

                You have to give them props for their audio back in the day though... The only integrated audio where you could pass through DTS.
                "We have offered them (the Arabs) a sensible way for so many years. But no, they wanted to fight. Fine! We gave them technology, the latest, the kind even Vietnam didn't have. They had double superiority in tanks and aircraft, triple in artillery, and in air defense and anti-tank weapons they had absolute supremacy. And what? Once again they were beaten. Once again they scrammed [sic]. Once again they screamed for us to come save them. Sadat woke me up in the middle of the night twice over the phone, 'Save me!' He demanded to send Soviet troops, and immediately! No! We are not going to fight for them."

                -Leonid Brezhnev (On the Yom Kippur War)

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                  #28
                  Re: Which nVidia mobo chipsets are bad?

                  When you lost the file [bad CRC] were you using PRM drives?
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                    #29
                    Re: Which nVidia mobo chipsets are bad?

                    Possibly. It's been at least a couple years since I messed with it. Even if I was PRM, why would it work fine on a different board (with a different chipset) using the same drive?

                    At the time, I had the same thought, that it might be the drive. In fact, that's the first thing I tried, that being to swap out drives.

                    IIRC, it was a 250GB Samsung Spinpoint P series drive.
                    A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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                      #30
                      Re: Which nVidia mobo chipsets are bad?

                      Originally posted by PCBONEZ View Post
                      And here I thought Gateway had packed their bags and headed back to the Cow patties.
                      .
                      Ya they have, but I had a great 7 years working there.

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                        #31
                        Re: Which nVidia mobo chipsets are bad?

                        I saw a Gateway Netbook/Notebook hybrid a couple of years back.
                        "We have offered them (the Arabs) a sensible way for so many years. But no, they wanted to fight. Fine! We gave them technology, the latest, the kind even Vietnam didn't have. They had double superiority in tanks and aircraft, triple in artillery, and in air defense and anti-tank weapons they had absolute supremacy. And what? Once again they were beaten. Once again they scrammed [sic]. Once again they screamed for us to come save them. Sadat woke me up in the middle of the night twice over the phone, 'Save me!' He demanded to send Soviet troops, and immediately! No! We are not going to fight for them."

                        -Leonid Brezhnev (On the Yom Kippur War)

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                          #32
                          Re: Which nVidia mobo chipsets are bad?

                          Reflow is worth it, reball is not. Reball hurts the eyes unless you buy all the stencils and a real reflow machine.

                          If you're just heatgunning it, some fix permanently the first time. Some are trouble makers and fail every 30 days or reflow once and then never come back.

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                            #33
                            Re: Which nVidia mobo chipsets are bad?

                            Reflow is worth it, reball is not. Reball hurts the eyes unless you buy all the stencils and a real reflow machine.
                            I don't know what kind of madman would attempt a reball without the stencils and the reflow station. Placing each ball by hand and then heatgunning it, while possible, is like trying to count grains of sand.
                            "We have offered them (the Arabs) a sensible way for so many years. But no, they wanted to fight. Fine! We gave them technology, the latest, the kind even Vietnam didn't have. They had double superiority in tanks and aircraft, triple in artillery, and in air defense and anti-tank weapons they had absolute supremacy. And what? Once again they were beaten. Once again they scrammed [sic]. Once again they screamed for us to come save them. Sadat woke me up in the middle of the night twice over the phone, 'Save me!' He demanded to send Soviet troops, and immediately! No! We are not going to fight for them."

                            -Leonid Brezhnev (On the Yom Kippur War)

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                              #34
                              Re: Which nVidia mobo chipsets are bad?

                              Originally posted by acstech View Post
                              Possibly. It's been at least a couple years since I messed with it. Even if I was PRM, why would it work fine on a different board (with a different chipset) using the same drive?

                              At the time, I had the same thought, that it might be the drive. In fact, that's the first thing I tried, that being to swap out drives.

                              IIRC, it was a 250GB Samsung Spinpoint P series drive.
                              For the same reason RAM will work well on one board but not another.
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                                #35
                                Re: Which nVidia mobo chipsets are bad?

                                Just trust me that I narrowed it down to the board in each instance. It did not happen on just the one board either.

                                "What has been seen cannot be unseen."

                                Remain skeptical if you want. I really don't care, nor do I have any point to prove here on the internet. I don't get anything for it. You asked, I shared. Period.
                                A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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                                  #36
                                  Re: Which nVidia mobo chipsets are bad?

                                  Originally posted by mockingbird View Post
                                  You have to give them props for their audio back in the day though... The only integrated audio where you could pass through DTS.
                                  My Realtek 889 does DD Live.

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                                    #37
                                    Re: Which nVidia mobo chipsets are bad?

                                    By the way, there are two versions of the 889, one that has more digital output features, I think it's called the 889D, but anyways, there's a new one out 892 which has it.
                                    "We have offered them (the Arabs) a sensible way for so many years. But no, they wanted to fight. Fine! We gave them technology, the latest, the kind even Vietnam didn't have. They had double superiority in tanks and aircraft, triple in artillery, and in air defense and anti-tank weapons they had absolute supremacy. And what? Once again they were beaten. Once again they scrammed [sic]. Once again they screamed for us to come save them. Sadat woke me up in the middle of the night twice over the phone, 'Save me!' He demanded to send Soviet troops, and immediately! No! We are not going to fight for them."

                                    -Leonid Brezhnev (On the Yom Kippur War)

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                                      #38
                                      Re: Which nVidia mobo chipsets are bad?

                                      Originally posted by mockingbird View Post
                                      By the way, there are two versions of the 889, one that has more digital output features, I think it's called the 889D, but anyways, there's a new one out 892 which has it.
                                      The 889A on my board is basically the 889DL or whatever it's called but only shows up on Gigabyte boards.

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                                        #39
                                        Re: Which nVidia mobo chipsets are bad?

                                        FWIW, My solution to defective nVidia chipsets is to put a fan over the heatsink. It may not fix the defect, but it will probably prolong it's life somewhat.
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                                          #40
                                          Re: Which nVidia mobo chipsets are bad?

                                          I don't know what kind of madman would attempt a reball without the stencils and the reflow station.
                                          How about soldering the balls by hand, there are youtube videos but not on anything as big as a chipset/gpu.

                                          Generic stencils are more along the lines of what I'm talking about.

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