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  • anupkg1985
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2020
    • 180
    • USA

    #1

    Samsung PS replacement

    Hi,

    I have a Samsung led tv with bad PS however I have another good PS from different model of the Samsung tv which has similar outputs so just wanted to confirm if I can use that one Below are the links for the PS -

    Bad PS -
    https://www.shopjimmy.com/samsung-bn...ply-led-board/

    Good PS -
    https://www.shopjimmy.com/samsung-bn...ply-led-board/

    Let me know if I can use bn44-00500a instead of bn44-00499a ?
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  • nomoresonys
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jan 2013
    • 12206
    • U.S.

    #2
    Re: Samsung PS replacement

    Is a good question, I see the 500A is for a 60 inch and the 499A is for a 50 inch tv, not sure if the powerboard would put out to many volts for yours or not.
    Quit because THIS SITE LETS A ROGUE MEMBER TYPE ANY GARBAGE HE PLEASES AND THE POWERS THAT BE NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO HE NEVER QUITS. THEN YOU GET A PENALTY FOR RESPONDING TO HIS ATTACKS. BEEN GOING ON FOR WAY TOO LONG. DONE SUPPORTING A SITE THAT ALLOWS THIS BS.

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    • anupkg1985
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2020
      • 180
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Samsung PS replacement

      Updated the broken urls -

      Bad PS -
      https://www.shopjimmy.com/samsung-bn...ply-led-board/

      output ratings -

      A 5.3 V 18 mA
      B. 5.3 V 1.1 A
      B. 12.8 V 2.1 A
      Vomp 12.8 V 0.3 A

      CNL. 331 V 289 mA

      Good PS -
      https://www.shopjimmy.com/samsung-bn...ply-led-board/

      output ratings -

      A 5.3 V 18 mA
      B. 5.3 V 1.1 A
      B. 12.8 V 2.1 A
      Vomp 12.8 V 0.3 A

      CNL. 224 V 260mA

      Good PS is from 60" tv and I'm trying to put it in 55" tv.
      Last edited by anupkg1985; 10-26-2020, 05:38 PM. Reason: Update

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Samsung PS replacement

        They are not compatible, the 500 has two boost converters to drive each LED string, the 499 only has one boost converter to drive one large LED string that is why drive Voltage is 331V..and the 500 is only 224V
        Last edited by budm; 10-26-2020, 06:15 PM.
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        • R_J
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          • Jun 2012
          • 9555
          • Canada

          #5
          Re: Samsung PS replacement

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          • anupkg1985
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2020
            • 180
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            #6
            Re: Samsung PS replacement

            Originally posted by budm
            They are not compatible, the 500 has two boost converters to drive each LED string, the 499 only has one boost converter to drive one large LED string that is why drive Voltage is 331V..and the 500 is only 224V
            What if we alter the one large LED strips and make it compatible with 224V, not sure though if it's possible? By combining the pieces in parallel and series?

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Samsung PS replacement

              You have to know how many LED the whole string has, then you have to divide then into two set and then each string has to be able to be driven the new drive Voltage, then you also have dimming control to deal with, since it is two separated drive circuit, each circuit may be driven individually by zone control.
              So bottom line, it is not that simple.
              What is wrong with the power supply board? Did you verify that the LED strings are all OK?
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • anupkg1985
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2020
                • 180
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Samsung PS replacement

                Haven't checked the PS yet but will post the finding once I perform the checks on it. However I would like to know what is dimming control, does it take care of light brightness based on the picture light?

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung PS replacement

                  Dimming control is for setting the Backlights level (not the same as Brightness)).
                  Most of Samsung power supply/LED driver can perform self test by powering the power supply board by itself with out having the cable between and main board connected, when AC is applied to the power supply/LED driver board the backlights should come on right away and stay on as long as the AC is applied to the power supply/LED driver board.
                  What level of repair experience are you when dealing with TV?
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • anupkg1985
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2020
                    • 180
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung PS replacement

                    I'm not professional, its just a hobby for me. Just seeking more knowledge on this.

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                    • nomoresonys
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 12206
                      • U.S.

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung PS replacement

                      Some on that page, some of the prices aren't really too bad for a 55: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...acat=0&_sop=15
                      Quit because THIS SITE LETS A ROGUE MEMBER TYPE ANY GARBAGE HE PLEASES AND THE POWERS THAT BE NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO HE NEVER QUITS. THEN YOU GET A PENALTY FOR RESPONDING TO HIS ATTACKS. BEEN GOING ON FOR WAY TOO LONG. DONE SUPPORTING A SITE THAT ALLOWS THIS BS.

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                      • anupkg1985
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2020
                        • 180
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung PS replacement

                        Here is the issue with bad power supply. I see main fuse (FP801S) is blown and one of the capacitor (CS802) is damaged. Could someone let me know what could be the issue? Is the problem with PWM controller?
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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung PS replacement

                          That blue cap is the snubber cap for SMPS IC (6-pin IC mounted on the heatsink).
                          Remove that blown cap the check the resistance between the two pads of the removed cap, check the resistance of RS802, report the resistance readings.
                          That snubber cap is common failure cap, it will fail as shorts circuit.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • anupkg1985
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2020
                            • 180
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung PS replacement

                            RS802 measures around 0.6 Ohm not sure if thats correct as resistor has 5 bands.
                            After removing bad cap the resistance between two pads is 60K Ohm however after reversing probes it goes to 30+M Ohm.

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Samsung PS replacement

                              Originally posted by anupkg1985
                              RS802 measures around 0.6 Ohm not sure if thats correct as resistor has 5 bands.
                              After removing bad cap the resistance between two pads is 60K Ohm however after reversing probes it goes to 30+M Ohm.
                              That is good, the Source resistor is fine, and the internal power MOSFET of the SMPS IC is also OK based on the resistance reading.

                              Can you still read the print on that high Voltage rating ceramic cap?
                              You should also check the bridge rectifier to make sure it is not damaged when that cap shorted out.
                              Also check the resistance between the two legs of the main filter cap (100uF 450vdc) cap.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • anupkg1985
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2020
                                • 180
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Samsung PS replacement

                                Bridge rectifier looks good when checked on the board itself. Ceramic cap reads as 68K 1KV. The resistance between main cap is around 63K ohm and 30+M Ohm when reversed.

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung PS replacement

                                  That is 68pF 1KV, I would get 2KV rating at least.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • anupkg1985
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Sep 2020
                                    • 180
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung PS replacement

                                    Sorry I'm not sure what does that means? Do you want me to replace the cap and test the circuit?

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung PS replacement

                                      Since the bridge and the resistance test on the main cap are OK, all you have to do now is to replace that snubber cap, then you can try powering up the board by putting 75W 120VAC incandescent lamp in place of the fuse, if the lamp comes on bright and stay bright then you have more problem on the board..
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung PS replacement

                                        Originally posted by anupkg1985
                                        Sorry I'm not sure what does that means? Do you want me to replace the cap and test the circuit?
                                        That s the cap rating.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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