Possible to run Win7 on a Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15IKB, i3 gen8 & UHD 620

[ratdude747]

Re: Possible to run Win7 on a Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15IKB, i3 gen8 & UHD 620

Just a follow-up to this thread....

I never found any HWID's that revealed any touchpad. When the logitech receiver was unplugged, there were no HID's either. The keyboard (which works fine) shows as a PS2. When I told the owner about the touchpad issue, he told me he didn't give a f*ck....it didn't work with 10 either, and he uses a mouse with his laptop anyway.....so I wrapped this one up and returned it to him.

After him telling me it never worked in the first place, I'm just going to conclude that the touchpad was simply defective.

It's a lenovo ideapad .

[Topcat]

Re: Possible to run Win7 on a Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15IKB, i3 gen8 & UHD 620

Just a follow-up to this thread....

I never found any HWID's that revealed any touchpad. When the logitech receiver was unplugged, there were no HID's either. The keyboard (which works fine) shows as a PS2. When I told the owner about the touchpad issue, he told me he didn't give a f*ck....it didn't work with 10 either, and he uses a mouse with his laptop anyway.....so I wrapped this one up and returned it to him.

After him telling me it never worked in the first place, I'm just going to conclude that the touchpad was simply defective.

[blasterboomer]

Re: Possible to run Win7 on a Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15IKB, i3 gen8 & UHD 620

have you tried Snappy Driver Installer

https://sdi-tool.org/download/

This has worked for me on both new and old hardware

[sofTest]

Re: Possible to run Win7 on a Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15IKB, i3 gen8 & UHD 620

Weird. You might need some kind of hardware inventory analyser.

One comes with Windows. Win+r and run msinfo32. Look under Components, and Input or possibly Problem Devices and see what you find.

RWEverything access hardware directly. Under SMBios there usually are a Built-in pointing device entry. Anything making any sense?

Otherwise you might want to try some other utility. A few like HWinfo and Sandra I've used before, but not for some time now. I don't remember any particulars of them any more.
https://www.itechtics.com/check-hard...tails-windows/
https://www.itechtics.com/10-tools-c...tail-computer/

If you got UBCD on a stick, some of the system utils might reveal something.

At worst, you might have to reinstall W10 to see how it handle the hardware, and if the touchpad works at all. Do you know for a fact that the touchpad is not faulty?

Edit: Does automatic driver update work for you?
https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/no/en/p...81de/downloads

[Uranium-235]

Re: Possible to run Win7 on a Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15IKB, i3 gen8 & UHD 620

also vendor ID's

synapitics - 06CB
elan - 04F3
alps - 044E

[Topcat]

Re: Possible to run Win7 on a Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15IKB, i3 gen8 & UHD 620

^
I checked that, it wasn't there....but I'll check again tomorrow to be sure.

[Uranium-235]

Re: Possible to run Win7 on a Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15IKB, i3 gen8 & UHD 620

I just looked at all of the .infs for this model (this model has drivers for alps, synapitics and elan). It looks like they're all classed under HID. Look at your human interface devices and see if one has a device string that starts with one of the following:

HID\VEN_ELAN (this is ELAN)
HID\AUI(four hex characters) this is ALPS
HID\SYNA(number) this is synapitics

I think a service is required for this crap to work

[Topcat]

Re: Possible to run Win7 on a Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15IKB, i3 gen8 & UHD 620

are there any question mark unknown devices?

No

try fn+f6 (just looked at a manual)

I tried that too, one of the first things I did...no go.

[Uranium-235]

Re: Possible to run Win7 on a Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15IKB, i3 gen8 & UHD 620

are there any question mark unknown devices?

try fn+f6 (just looked at a manual)

[Topcat]

Re: Possible to run Win7 on a Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15IKB, i3 gen8 & UHD 620

is there a device for it in the dev manager?

As I said earlier, no.

[Uranium-235]

Re: Possible to run Win7 on a Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15IKB, i3 gen8 & UHD 620

what fn+fx function + f-key with the touchpad symbol?

is there a device for it in the dev manager?

[Topcat]

Re: Possible to run Win7 on a Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15IKB, i3 gen8 & UHD 620

If there's a setting in the BIOS for it, they've hidden it good....I couldn't find it.

[Uranium-235]

Re: Possible to run Win7 on a Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15IKB, i3 gen8 & UHD 620

heres an idea I thought of last night...did you fn+key to enable/disable the touchpad? see if it's enabled in the bios?

[Uranium-235]

Re: Possible to run Win7 on a Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15IKB, i3 gen8 & UHD 620

look up the service express number and see what software they have for you for win10 for the touchpad. If it's synapitics, I know they released a unified generic driver from their website but last I looked was some time ago and I don't know it it covers win7 anymore

[Topcat]

Re: Possible to run Win7 on a Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15IKB, i3 gen8 & UHD 620

Well, it depends on what model it is, DC, DE or FD.
There seems to be three different touchpads available for it: Alps, Synaptics or Elan.
Should be possible to figure out by looking at the device ID in device manager.
The Win7 version you used: is it the one I have slipstreamed with USB3 & NMVE support?
Just thinking out loud that maybe it does not have the latest USB3 drivers for such a new system.

this is the USB driver I have slipstreamed: Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver_5.0.4.43_v2

I have no idea which touchpad it is....but I think it's the synaptics 'clickpad', as you can press just about anywhere on it, and it clicks....synonymous with the clickpad....but I have no HWID's to verify that. The label on the bottom says '81DE'

[Per Hansson]

Re: Possible to run Win7 on a Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15IKB, i3 gen8 & UHD 620

Well, it depends on what model it is, DC, DE or FD.
There seems to be three different touchpads available for it: Alps, Synaptics or Elan.
Should be possible to figure out by looking at the device ID in device manager.
The Win7 version you used: is it the one I have slipstreamed with USB3 & NMVE support?
Just thinking out loud that maybe it does not have the latest USB3 drivers for such a new system.

[Topcat]

Re: Possible to run Win7 on a Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15IKB, i3 gen8 & UHD 620

https://manjaro.org/

Problem solved

(It's to Arch linux as Ubuntu is to Debian, only far less bloated and junky. The Cinnamon edition is probably the best for former windows users who are new to linux).

Sorry, somebody had to...

no, that would just create more problems. The owner of this thing is a 69yr old man with zero tech skills.

should have gone with nvidia graphics.

it might be a touchpad connected to USB, and with 8th gen chipsets, USB 3.0 drivers are here

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/dow...Chipset-Family

you might have to find some way to install it automatically. With PC's it's usually easy to hook up a PS/2 keyboard. Laptops, different story. Slipstreaming them is the best way usually

USB is working, I have the intel usb3 drivers slipstreamed into the win7 installer, this thing has no usb2....so without, you'd likely get the 'missing media' error during the install.

The keyboard works though. I'd definitely have gone with nvidia graphics if I had a choice.

[Uranium-235]

Re: Possible to run Win7 on a Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15IKB, i3 gen8 & UHD 620

should have gone with nvidia graphics.

it might be a touchpad connected to USB, and with 8th gen chipsets, USB 3.0 drivers are here

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/dow...Chipset-Family

you might have to find some way to install it automatically. With PC's it's usually easy to hook up a PS/2 keyboard. Laptops, different story. Slipstreaming them is the best way usually

[ratdude747]

Re: Possible to run Win7 on a Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15IKB, i3 gen8 & UHD 620

https://manjaro.org/

Problem solved

(It's to Arch linux as Ubuntu is to Debian, only far less bloated and junky. The Cinnamon edition is probably the best for former windows users who are new to linux).

Sorry, somebody had to...

[Topcat]

Re: Possible to run Win7 on a Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15IKB, i3 gen8 & UHD 620

^
No go. This is bizarre....of all the kooky things to not work, the fucking touchpad....