Replace 25V cap with a 16V in a portable speaker?

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  • Paxman_Swede
    Member
    • Jan 2025
    • 14
    • Sweden

    #1

    Replace 25V cap with a 16V in a portable speaker?

    Hi!

    I posted a thread about identifying caps of my Zoom 9000 guitar effect where I mentioned a JBL speaker I'm trying to help my friend with. I haven't gotten any answers to that thread but I have a question regarding the cap in the speaker, so I thought I'd ask it separately.

    The cap is marked 100uf 25V. I have found a set of caps on Amazon that I think will cover the caps of the guitar effekt but it doesn't have any 100uf 25V. It does have a 100uf 16V though. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere on this forum that 25V can sometimes be replaced with 16V...but I can't find that thread again.

    This is part of the schematic I have found of the speaker.

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    The cap I'm replacing is C505 on the left side. It has shorted and I'm guessing that that is what blew the U500 chip.

    The speaker uses a 19V charger...so I'm guessing a 16V cap is not preferred...but can it work? At least for a while? I don't know if the cap and chip is the only fault in the speaker so I'm trying to keep costs at a minimal until I know for sure.

    Cheers!
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  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 30928
    • Albion

    #2
    +v-sys must be atleast 25% less than the cap rating ideally.
    so if v-sys is 12v you could get away with 16v caps, but for 19v even 25v caps are pushing it.

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    • Paxman_Swede
      Member
      • Jan 2025
      • 14
      • Sweden

      #3
      Thank you for your reply!

      So what is +V_SYS? Is that the main power rail? I can see in the schematic that all caps after +V_SYS is rated 25V so I'm guessing that you are right. Bummer...then I have to order that one separately. I have no electronic component shop locally so I'll have to order it...with shipping costs several times the cost of the cap. 😂

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      • stj
        Great Sage 齊天大聖
        • Dec 2009
        • 30928
        • Albion

        #4
        i'm assuming v-sys is your 19v psu input

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        • Paxman_Swede
          Member
          • Jan 2025
          • 14
          • Sweden

          #5
          Yes...I think you are right. So I bit the bullet and ordered the cheapest alternative I could find on Amazon...about $10 bucks. Thank you for your input stj. 👍

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          • stj
            Great Sage 齊天大聖
            • Dec 2009
            • 30928
            • Albion

            #6
            10€ for a 40c part?

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            • Paxman_Swede
              Member
              • Jan 2025
              • 14
              • Sweden

              #7
              Yup...as I wrote before "I have no electronic component shop locally so I'll have to order it...with shipping costs several times the cost of the cap." But hey...It was a pack of ten caps! Sometimes I hate living in Sweden. 😆

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              • Per Hansson
                Super Moderator
                • Jul 2005
                • 5895
                • Sweden

                #8
                Originally posted by Paxman_Swede
                Yup...as I wrote before "I have no electronic component shop locally so I'll have to order it...with shipping costs several times the cost of the cap." But hey...It was a pack of ten caps! Sometimes I hate living in Sweden. 😆
                Next time give electrokit.com a look, they don't have a large offering of caps but their shipping is very cheap and they are based in Sweden.
                "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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                • Paxman_Swede
                  Member
                  • Jan 2025
                  • 14
                  • Sweden

                  #9
                  Thank you Per, I'll remember that. 29 SEK is reasonable for shipping. They did not have the cap I needed though.

                  By the way, I saw your answer to my PM. 🙂

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