SAMSUNG PN43E450A1F Won't Turn On

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  • 1beertap
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Mar 2009
    • 219
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    #1

    SAMSUNG PN43E450A1F Won't Turn On

    Hey guys, I am working on this plasma tv for a coworker. The unit will not turn on and there is no indicator lights around front of bezel. I have tested voltages on power supply to as follows:

    PS-ON 2.43V
    STBY 5.26V
    GND 0V
    D15V 0V
    GND 0V
    GND 0V
    D5.3V 0.03V
    D5.3V 0.03V
    GND 0V
    D15V 0V
    D15V 0V
    D5.3V 0.03V

    Any ideas? Thanks.
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  • tech2014
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Aug 2014
    • 807
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: SAMSUNG PN43E450A1F Won't Turn On

    Have you tried removing the connector from the the Y SUS and Z SUS one at a time to see if you get voltage.Measure the resistance on the VS and VA lines. There may be a short on the Y or Z sustain boards, or a shorted buffer board.
    Last edited by tech2014; 09-22-2015, 08:56 PM.

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    • 1beertap
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Mar 2009
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      #3
      Re: SAMSUNG PN43E450A1F Won't Turn On

      tech2014,

      I tried removing both Y SUS and Z SUS one at a time and there is no change in voltage. Also, there are no clicks from the relays. I'm not sure what resistance that you want me to check on the VS and VA lines. In other words, where do I need to connect my test leads in order to check VS and VA resistance? I do see the VS and VA test points on the power supply.

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      • 1beertap
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Mar 2009
        • 219
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        #4
        Re: SAMSUNG PN43E450A1F Won't Turn On

        I grounded the PS-ON and all voltages came up including VS and VA, but I did not hear the relays click and of course no picture.

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #5
          Re: SAMSUNG PN43E450A1F Won't Turn On

          This board does not use relays so you won't hear anything click. (This is rare with plasma TVs. Relays are almost always used on the PSU but Samsung decided to omit them and just use simple NTC devices.)
          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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          • sordids999
            Badcaps Legend
            • May 2013
            • 2149
            • uk

            #6
            Re: SAMSUNG PN43E450A1F Won't Turn On

            Originally posted by tech2014
            or a shorted buffer board.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51SZsfH60EY

            how to test your buffers for shorts

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            • 1beertap
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Mar 2009
              • 219
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              #7
              Re: SAMSUNG PN43E450A1F Won't Turn On

              sordids999,

              I tested for shorts as per video, buffers test good no shorts. thanks.

              tom66,

              thanks for pointing that out.

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              • Hamie
                Badcaps Legend
                • Apr 2014
                • 1383
                • UK

                #8
                Re: SAMSUNG PN43E450A1F Won't Turn On

                common failure in this set is a faulty z-sus.
                Igbts shorted on the underside of the board.

                Have you tried running test patterns?

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                • 1beertap
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 219
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                  #9
                  Re: SAMSUNG PN43E450A1F Won't Turn On

                  Hamie,
                  i found no shorts on any of the igbts located under the z-sus or y-sus boards. I not sure how to run a test pattern with no picture. thanks for the info.

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                  • Hamie
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 1383
                    • UK

                    #10
                    Re: SAMSUNG PN43E450A1F Won't Turn On



                    Ok jump holes 3 and 4 on the control board.

                    Put back in your jumper on the power supply between ps-on and gnd.

                    Remove the lvds cable that connects the main av board to the control board.

                    Plug in the tv
                    Last edited by Hamie; 09-24-2015, 04:26 PM.

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                    • 1beertap
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 219
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                      #11
                      Re: SAMSUNG PN43E450A1F Won't Turn On

                      Hamie,
                      The panel comes on with test patterns showing changing colors but i notice a horizontal black bar in the middle of the screen.
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                      • 1beertap
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 219
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                        #12
                        Re: SAMSUNG PN43E450A1F Won't Turn On

                        I found out why I had a bar in the middle, one of the tab bonds wasn't plugged in all the way. Sorry for the confusion. The screen shows up great now.

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                        • tom66
                          EVs Rule
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #13
                          Re: SAMSUNG PN43E450A1F Won't Turn On

                          Good, was about to suggest that, or the panel might have a small crack on the edge (these newer PDPs will still display an image in some cases), but all sorted now.
                          This would indicate the main board is bad then.
                          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                          • 1beertap
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Mar 2009
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                            #14
                            Re: SAMSUNG PN43E450A1F Won't Turn On

                            tom66,
                            This was my thinking also. Thanks. I'll post back when I have a replacement installed.

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