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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #1

    Samsung LE32A457 bad glue? - BN44-00214A PSU

    Picked up this Samsung LE32A457 as it would intermittently fail to power on. Sometimes it would also cut out while running or the backlight would flicker but it would continue working. Or it would restart. When working, everything was OK with picture and sound. Checked PS ON/OFF signal and it was functioning as expected (on this set it's active HIGH) so it must be the power board at fault.

    I replaced the common CM808 capacitor, no dice.

    I found that by tapping around the power board it would cut out, so I reflowed a few suspect solder joints. Still no luck, still cut out when tapped.

    When it was struggling to power up, Vcc for main controller was ~9V, operational was 15V. So I focused on QB802. Input of QB802 was OK, at ~23V regardless of fault.

    Then I noticed QB802 with some glue on it, which had dried out, touching some of the pins. I cleaned this off and it's not cut out once... Anyone found this glue to be intermittent? I'm thinking that some was touching the pins partially, vibration was completing the circuit causing issues. But I've never encountered this before.

    Been working for nearly an hour with neigh but a flicker from the screen.
    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.
  • Alastair E
    Chief Womble
    • Mar 2013
    • 1963
    • U.K.

    #2
    Re: Samsung LE32A457 bad glue? - BN44-00214A PSU

    Ive had that 'Orrible Yellow Construction-Adhesive cause weird Intermittent faults WAY back in 1983 on a Sony Cassette deck....

    So--Yes, It can cause intermittent faults--and they are STILL using that trash after all these years!
    TELEFIX

    How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
    http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
    PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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    • artois7
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 159

      #3
      Re: Samsung LE32A457 bad glue? - BN44-00214A PSU

      Yep that yellow stuff is definitely still used! AlastairE. In a lot of units I've seen recently the yellow glue has actually turned brown through heat and goes conductive. All from a large name Soundbar company. Not sure if that's what Tom is talking about though!

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #4
        Re: Samsung LE32A457 bad glue? - BN44-00214A PSU

        The glue on mine has turned a distinct brown-yellowish shade. I've scraped as much of it off as possible.

        I've seen it used in Yamaha equipment myself too.

        Vestel uses the white stuff which seems ok. Panasonic usually doens't bother, as they design the components to fit flush with the board where mechanical stability is important.
        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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