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  • lapfix
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    • Mar 2020
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    DELL 5521 LA-9101P REV1.0 No display

    DELL 5521 LA-9101P REV1.0 No display with 8 Beeps.

    So it's a graphic issue !!...i change screen/cable still 8 beeps
    I convert it to Uma and still 8 beeps !

    Amp taken 0.729 , all voltages are present

    PL 200 = 3.3 Valw
    Pl 201 = 5 Valw
    Pl 500 = 1.08v
    Pl 300 = 1.5
    pjp401 = 1.8 ( +1.8VS)

    Pl 701 = 0.800
    Pl 600 = 0.830 (+VCCSAP )
    Pl 800 = 0.863
    Pl 803 = 0.950

    3/5 VS are present
    +3V PCH are present
    QC3 = 1.5v ( CPU_VDDQ)
    uz1 = 1.5v ( 1.5VS)

    PLT_RST# = 3.3v

    I notice that when i power on the laptop there's a backlight at the screen , but no picture/logo/texte ...i have this same issue with R12 !!

    Any other ideas / measurements to check !!

    Thank You
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  • mcplslg123
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    • Jun 2015
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    Re: DELL 5521 LA-9101P REV1.0 No display

    Amp taken 0.729A-is this on UMA mode?? If so it indicates problem in ram detection. Check ram requirement thoroughly. I've boardview of this mb. If you dont have i can post it to make things easier for you. The consumption on working mb should'nt exceed 0.550A. Your power supply shows proper variation on switch on-most likely no. It perhaps go straight to 0.700A with slight variation. Give feedback.

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    • lapfix
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      #3
      Re: DELL 5521 LA-9101P REV1.0 No display

      Thank you mcplslg.
      The amp taken is on discreet mode , since i find same behaviour so i turn it again on discreet mode.

      When i power on , the amp taken make a variation , until 0.850 amp than be stable at 0.730.

      I have a boarderview of La 9104P , i think the same.

      so what to check else!

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      • Techtiger
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        Re: DELL 5521 LA-9101P REV1.0 No display

        Can one of you Guys Uplode the the Bordview , lapfix did you check the LCDVDD ?

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        • lapfix
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          Re: DELL 5521 LA-9101P REV1.0 No display

          Originally posted by techtiger
          Can one of you Guys Uplode the the Bordview , lapfix did you check the LCDVDD ?
          I will re check and post all the voltages
          this is BRD of la-9104P
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          • lapfix
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            #6
            Re: DELL 5521 LA-9101P REV1.0 No display

            LVDS voltages :

            Pin24/25 = +LCDVDD = 3.38v
            Pin 26 = +3VS = 3.3v
            Pin36 = INV_PWM = 3.4v
            Pin 37 = DISPOFF# = 3.15v
            Pin 39/40 = +INV_PWR_SRC = 19v

            Amp taken 0.99

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            • Techtiger
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              Re: DELL 5521 LA-9101P REV1.0 No display

              Thanks for the Boedview check SIO pin 10 7 8 5 4 ?

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              • lapfix
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                Re: DELL 5521 LA-9101P REV1.0 No display

                you're welcome.
                All this pins have 3.4v

                Strange one , same behaviour ...like piernov said : confirm if laptop is completing POST or not !

                https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...&highlight=R12

                After conversion and the issue persist , so it's not a graphic one...

                any other ideas !!!

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                • mcplslg123
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                  Re: DELL 5521 LA-9101P REV1.0 No display

                  Consumption is more or less ok on discrete mode.No point measuring LVDS pins as mb is not posting. What about PL700?? Have you checked powergood of all pwm's?? Bios flashed??If flashed, reflash with other similar chip again. Btw, what is the offline consumption on your dc?? Ram requirement checked thoroughly??
                  Last edited by mcplslg123; 03-21-2021, 02:48 AM.

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                  • lapfix
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                    Re: DELL 5521 LA-9101P REV1.0 No display

                    PL700!! why i did it measure it before ! = 0V
                    PQ700 is good with diode mode , PQ 702/703 Are open ( diode mode , D and S ).

                    the offline consumption on my dc = 0.00 , i know must be at least 0.01..but now variation .

                    Ram slot voltages =

                    Pin 199 = 3v
                    Pin 204 = +0.75VS
                    Pin 126 = +VREF_CA = 0.75v
                    Pin 75 = VDD = 1.5v
                    Pin 30= DDR3_DRAMRST# = 1.5v
                    Pin 200 = PCH_SMBDATA = 3.4v
                    Pin 202 = PCH_SMBCLK = 3.4v

                    Bios flashed with a good known dump

                    I will check the powergood of all pwm's , and change bios chip and update

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                    • lapfix
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                      Re: DELL 5521 LA-9101P REV1.0 No display

                      powergood voltages =

                      Pu800 = pin 1 = 3.43v
                      Pu700 = pin15 = 3.3v
                      Pu500 = pin 1 = 3.0v
                      Pu200 = pin 23 = 5V

                      +VCCA_LVDS = RH185 pad = 3v
                      +VCCTX_LVDS = LH2 = 1.8v
                      Last edited by lapfix; 03-21-2021, 04:40 AM.

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                      • mcplslg123
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                        Re: DELL 5521 LA-9101P REV1.0 No display

                        Put probe on Pl700 before switch on and then turn on and see if voltage rises for a very short time. Your dc is 3 or 4 digit?? On 4 digit dc, consumption should be 0.004-0.006 offline.

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                        • lapfix
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                          Re: DELL 5521 LA-9101P REV1.0 No display

                          OK , 3 digit .
                          when i turn on 0.000v for 5 secondes than 0.400..0.800..and back to 0.000
                          Last edited by lapfix; 03-21-2021, 06:29 AM.

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                          • mcplslg123
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                            Your AMPMETER is not good enough to read consumption in mA. Will suggest to invest in a 4digit DC. You didnt answered my PL700 Reading question.

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                            • mcplslg123
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                              PIN 1/116/120 of Ram slot??

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                              • mcplslg123
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                                Re: DELL 5521 LA-9101P REV1.0 No display

                                Locate QH2 and remove it. Just jumper pin 1-6 & Pin 3-4 and see if it makes any difference. Leave PIn 2/5 untouched.

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                                • lapfix
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                                  Re: DELL 5521 LA-9101P REV1.0 No display

                                  Thank you mcplsg

                                  I had a 4 digit at my office and the consumption is 0.002.

                                  about PL700 :
                                  Originally posted by lapfix
                                  OK , 3 digit .
                                  when i turn on 0.000v for 5 secondes than 0.400..0.800..and back to 0.000
                                  Ram slot =
                                  Pin 1 = 0.769v
                                  Pin 116 = 77mv
                                  Pin 120 = 65mv

                                  Locate HQ2 and do what you ask for but still the same behaviour , only backlight no text/picture and 8 beeps

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                                  • mcplslg123
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                                    I'm still confused with your offline dc supply reading. You wrote 0.000V for 5 secs and then 0.400..0.800 and back to 0.000. I beleive you mean 0.000 to 0.004 .... 0.008...0.000. Why consumption will fall back to 0.000?? I think the whole confusion is coz of your reading on 3 digit dc supply.

                                    Please clarify. However, if offline consumption is fluctuating the way you have mentioned and drops to zero, then you have problem in +19V line itself.

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                                    • lapfix
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                                      Re: DELL 5521 LA-9101P REV1.0 No display

                                      NO my friend ( 0.000V for 5 secs and then 0.400..0.800 and back to 0.000) this is Pl700 reading when turn on , the voltage that rises for a very short time....with my multimetere.

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                                      • mcplslg123
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                                        Re: DELL 5521 LA-9101P REV1.0 No display

                                        Oh sorry, i misunderstood. Pl700 behaviour is perfect. The reading proves you dont have any problem in GFX Core. So your dc consumption is 0.002-correct?? That's low in my opinion. This mb should consume minimum 0.004-0.008. I'll suggest if i get any idea.

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