Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3 (Quanta FL5 DAFL5CMB6C) - water on ISL6237, no 3VCPU, no 5VCPU

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  • u666sa
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    • Jan 2014
    • 70
    • Russia

    #1

    Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3 (Quanta FL5 DAFL5CMB6C) - water on ISL6237, no 3VCPU, no 5VCPU

    Help fellow newb out! Fix his old salave netbook and learn fixing stuff in process.
    ISL6237 had coffee damage, cleaned it with benzine. VIN is present, there is no 3VCPU and no 5VCPU. What do I replace? ISL6237 or PQ51, PQ52, PQ50, PQ55?
    (isl6237 is two months away from china, no local availability)
    What will be the most likely culprit here?

    full size - https://ibb.co/6s0Q7rW


    Attached boardview + schematics
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  • Techtiger
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2014
    • 1601
    • france

    #2
    Re: Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3 (Quanta FL5 DAFL5CMB6C) - water on ISL6237, no 3VCPU, no 5VC

    What voltage’s do you get on pin 1 3 4 5 7
    Last edited by Techtiger; 12-09-2019, 01:05 PM.

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    • piernov
      Super Moderator
      • Jan 2016
      • 4435
      • France

      #3
      Re: Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3 (Quanta FL5 DAFL5CMB6C) - water on ISL6237, no 3VCPU, no 5VC

      Measure resistance to ground on +3VPCU and +5VPCU.
      Measure voltage on enable signals and LDO outputs.
      OpenBoardView — https://github.com/OpenBoardView/OpenBoardView

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      • u666sa
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        • Jan 2014
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        #4
        Re: Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3 (Quanta FL5 DAFL5CMB6C) - water on ISL6237, no 3VCPU, no 5VC

        pin1 --> 3.57V
        pin3 --> 3.57V
        pin4 --> 4.35V
        pin5 --> ~60.0mV
        note pin5 goes to PR98, on the other side of PR98 REFIN2, which is 3.57V
        THERE IS NO PR98 on the board, there is place for it, there are pads for it, but PR98 is absent
        it does not look like there was ever something on those pads, they look factory
        Put jumper??



        pin7 --> -0.00mV
        note pin5 to ground resistance 0.8 Ohm


        ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

        Resistance -->

        LDO to 3VPCU (measured PC148 to PL14) --> 1.2 Ohm
        LDO to 5VPCU (measured PC148 to PL13) --> 8.6 kOhm
        PC148 (pin7 LDO) to ground --> 0 Ohm, short (took off and checked PC148, it's normal)


        Full size -- https://ibb.co/RS3RxQP

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        • u666sa
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          • Jan 2014
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          #5
          Re: Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3 (Quanta FL5 DAFL5CMB6C) - water on ISL6237, no 3VCPU, no 5VC

          Originally posted by piernov
          Measure voltage on .... LDO outputs.
          +3VPCU to ground = 0.5 Ohm
          +5VPCU to ground = 9.01 kOhm

          EN1, EN2 pin14, pin27 3V5V_EN --> -0.00V


          About measuring voltage on LDO output, I'm a newb, I would need help with this one, where exactly? If LDO itself, pin7, then it's -0.00V, that thing is shorted to ground.

          Which pins are LDO output?



          Last edited by u666sa; 12-09-2019, 02:38 PM.

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          • mcplslg123
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            • Jun 2015
            • 7262
            • india

            #6
            Re: Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3 (Quanta FL5 DAFL5CMB6C) - water on ISL6237, no 3VCPU, no 5VC

            Your chip is bad. Remove the chip,clean the pad,pins and then check resistance on pin7

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            • u666sa
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              • Jan 2014
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              #7
              Re: Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3 (Quanta FL5 DAFL5CMB6C) - water on ISL6237, no 3VCPU, no 5VC

              I replaced PU7.. There was no original in the store, so I used analog DS8206A -- datasheet https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...270d18a4ca.pdf

              I checked resistances, all seemed normal, gave it power and magic smoke come from U7
              which is IT8502E., multicontroller.





              I took U7 off and measured voltages and resistances

              LDO --> 3VPCU == 170.5 kOhm
              LDO --> 5VPCU == 207 kOhm

              3VPCU --> GROUND == 72.5 Ohm
              5VPCU --> GROUND == 8.32 kOhm

              3VPCU == 0 V
              5VPCU == 0 V

              VIN is not coming to PU7, but without U7 it shouldn't be coming there, correct?

              Now I have an IT8502E from a donor, but before I stick in there, perhaps I should check some stuff in order to prevent more magic smoke?

              What to check?

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              • mcplslg123
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                • Jun 2015
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                #8
                Re: Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3 (Quanta FL5 DAFL5CMB6C) - water on ISL6237, no 3VCPU, no 5VC

                3VPCU --> GROUND == 72.5 Ohm- Shorted line.

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                • u666sa
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2014
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                  #9
                  Re: Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3 (Quanta FL5 DAFL5CMB6C) - water on ISL6237, no 3VCPU, no 5VC

                  Originally posted by mcplslg123
                  3VPCU --> GROUND == 72.5 Ohm- Shorted line.

                  I've taken down PL14 on 3VPCU circuit, so that IS6237 won't interfear.
                  I've attached a test point wire to pin2 of PL4 pad, OUT2, this is from where 3VPCU should come out.


                  Then I took off everything on that line that got hot.

                  That is
                  in the order that I took them off
                  keep in mind that U7
                  IT8502E multicontroller was already off at this point

                  U9
                  W25X80AVSSIG




                  D11




                  PU4
                  ISL88731A
                  battery charger
                  and then PQ39 and PQ37 next to it





                  Resistance of 3VPCU to GROUND is now 27.9 kOhm


                  Does this mean, those components are bad and should I replace them, it might work again?

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                  • Sephir0th
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                    • Oct 2020
                    • 1262
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                    #10
                    Re: Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3 (Quanta FL5 DAFL5CMB6C) - water on ISL6237, no 3VCPU, no 5VC

                    @u666sa

                    I believe You decided to Remove all of them, because of the temperature they Had reached?

                    Really, i don't think all of them are Bad. You should have measure the Résistance to GND of +3VPCU after the removal of each component to confirm which one(s) is/are Short to GND.

                    After replacing the faulty IC(s) you Always should Check Resistance to GND around the IC before Power in the Board to prevent situations Like this.
                    FairRepair on YouTube

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                    • mcplslg123
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                      • Jun 2015
                      • 7262
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                      #11
                      Re: Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3 (Quanta FL5 DAFL5CMB6C) - water on ISL6237, no 3VCPU, no 5VC

                      Originally posted by Sephir0th
                      @u666sa

                      I believe You decided to Remove all of them, because of the temperature they Had reached?

                      Really, i don't think all of them are Bad. You should have measure the Résistance to GND of +3VPCU after the removal of each component to confirm which one(s) is/are Short to GND.

                      After replacing the faulty IC(s) you Always should Check Resistance to GND around the IC before Power in the Board to prevent situations Like this.
                      Hey man,
                      That case is almost 2 years old

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                      • Sephir0th
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Oct 2020
                        • 1262
                        • Germany

                        #12
                        Re: Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3 (Quanta FL5 DAFL5CMB6C) - water on ISL6237, no 3VCPU, no 5VC

                        Oooops...
                        FairRepair on YouTube

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