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  • Frenk7
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    • Jan 2019
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    #1

    Acer Aspire 5742ZG working on battery only!

    Acer Aspire 5742ZG-P612G50Mnkk
    Motherboard:
    NEW70 LA-5891P
    Rev : 1.0

    I have laptop that was in contact with liquid. It is working on battery only, if i plug in charger without battery nothing happens. I have check the charger it is ok (19V). I have check first 2 mosfet, on first i have on input 19V, on output 18.58V, second mosfet, input is 18.58V and on the output i have 8,3V. I have try replaceing second mosfet and problem was the same, so i shorted second and now i have 18.58V on main power rail, i have 3.3V rail and 5V rail, and it still works only on battery. I have try with 19V from power supply on output of second mosfet and it takes only 0.02A so i think i have no short on main power rail. I have no more ideas, and the sad part is that i have bordview and schematic...

    HELP PLEASE
  • ktmmotocross
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    • Feb 2014
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    #2
    Re: Acer Aspire 5742ZG working on battery only!

    measure all pins on charger ic for voltage and for its resistance to ground, without that jump/original state/ and without battery

    and NEVER jump that two mosfets until u check all highside mosfets for short
    Last edited by ktmmotocross; 02-10-2019, 07:41 AM.

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    • Frenk7
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      #3
      Re: Acer Aspire 5742ZG working on battery only!

      Tell me please if i'm right, that should be ISL6251A ic?

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      • ktmmotocross
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        • Feb 2014
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        #4
        Re: Acer Aspire 5742ZG working on battery only!

        put it to google and u easy find its datasheet.

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        • Frenk7
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          #5
          Re: Acer Aspire 5742ZG working on battery only!

          I hope i have manage to upload the pictures of iz
          Attached Files

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          • Techtiger
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            • Oct 2014
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            #6
            Re: Acer Aspire 5742ZG working on battery only!

            Voltage in pin4 PQ51 ? pin 4 must be 8.14V with 19V in
            Voltage in PR371 PACIN both sides ?
            Voltage in PQ65 pin 2 ACOFF

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            • Frenk7
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              #7
              Re: Acer Aspire 5742ZG working on battery only!

              First pictures with voltages of charging ic:
              Attached Files

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              • Frenk7
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                #8
                Re: Acer Aspire 5742ZG working on battery only!

                ok, techtiger here are voltages:

                PQ51 PIN 4: 18,69V
                PQ52 PIN 4: 18,69V

                PQ65 ACON: 0.030V
                ACOFF: 0.00V

                PR371 PACIN: 0.030V
                ACON: 0.000V
                The measurement are taken with both mosfet PQ51 and PQ52 soldered back on

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                • ktmmotocross
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                  #9
                  Re: Acer Aspire 5742ZG working on battery only!

                  check page 8

                  https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...da79b1c524.pdf

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                  • Techtiger
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                    • Oct 2014
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                    #10
                    Re: Acer Aspire 5742ZG working on battery only!

                    now test voltage PD18 both sides DCIN (19V) is the supply for PU17 with out battrey

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                    • Frenk7
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                      #11
                      Re: Acer Aspire 5742ZG working on battery only!

                      I am looking at page 8 and i see that my voltage readings are all off, but i think that is because i don't have good input voltage. Am i right?

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                      • Frenk7
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                        #12
                        Re: Acer Aspire 5742ZG working on battery only!

                        I don't see pd18, i have pc252 and pq54 on DCIN.
                        And on PQ54 i have:
                        Pin 1 - DCIN: 0.055V
                        Pin 2 - N47340532: 8.3V
                        Pin 3 - P3: 8.3V
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                        • Frenk7
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                          #13
                          Re: Acer Aspire 5742ZG working on battery only!

                          Here is schematic and boardview, if someone don't have it. Thanks, all help is appreciated
                          Attached Files

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                          • ktmmotocross
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                            #14
                            Re: Acer Aspire 5742ZG working on battery only!

                            Originally posted by Frenk7
                            I am looking at page 8 and i see that my voltage readings are all off, but i think that is because i don't have good input voltage. Am i right?
                            u r right. trace it

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                            • Techtiger
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                              #15
                              Re: Acer Aspire 5742ZG working on battery only!

                              Originally posted by Frenk7
                              Here is schematic and boardview, if someone don't have it. Thanks, all help is appreciated
                              the Schematic is diffrent your Mob is Acer Aspire 5742ZG ?
                              Attached Files
                              Last edited by Techtiger; 02-11-2019, 02:17 AM.

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                              • Techtiger
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                                • Oct 2014
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                                #16
                                Re: Acer Aspire 5742ZG working on battery only!

                                Originally posted by Frenk7
                                I don't see pd18, i have pc252 and pq54 on DCIN.
                                And on PQ54 i have:
                                Pin 1 - DCIN: 0.055V
                                Pin 2 - N47340532: 8.3V
                                Pin 3 - P3: 8.3V
                                Pin 3 is connected with PQ52 out put P3 terminal that's why low voltage of 8.3V it should be 19V but PQ52 is not switching on according to the Boardviewer.
                                the Schematic i have send and your Boardviewer dosen't match also what is you Mob number compal-la XXXX ?
                                Last edited by Techtiger; 02-11-2019, 02:31 AM.

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                                • Frenk7
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Acer Aspire 5742ZG working on battery only!

                                  Yes, it is, but motherboard is NEW70 LA-5891P
                                  Rev : 1.0, and i haven't anything wrong with schematic

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                                  • Frenk7
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Acer Aspire 5742ZG working on battery only!

                                    I mean to say, i haven't see anything wrong with this schematic

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                                    • shandybass
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Acer Aspire 5742ZG working on battery only!

                                      Check for VS rail voltage, pin 1 of PC213. If ok then check voltages on PU18A
                                      Last edited by shandybass; 02-11-2019, 03:41 AM.

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                                      • Frenk7
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Acer Aspire 5742ZG working on battery only!

                                        PC213:
                                        P1-18,41V
                                        P2-0.0V

                                        PU18:
                                        P1-0.03
                                        P2-3.26
                                        P3-3.52
                                        P4-gnd
                                        P5-3.9-4.2
                                        P6-3.23
                                        P7-4.2-4.7
                                        P8-18.46

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