Dell inspiron 15 la-b843p charging issue

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  • mcplslg123
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    • Jun 2015
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    Dell inspiron 15 la-b843p charging issue

    MODELELL INSPIRON 15-5000 SERIES
    PLATFORM: LA-B843P REV 1.0
    PROBLEM:PLUGGED IN CHARGING BUT PERCENT NOT GOING UP.

    Measurement of BQ737 with adapter plugged in with battery

    PIN01-19V
    PIN02-19V
    PIN03- 0V
    PIN04- 0V
    PIN05- 0V
    PIN06-2.46V
    PIN07- 0V
    PIN08-3.2V
    PIN09-3.2V
    PIN10-2.97V
    PIN11-2.97V
    PIN12-15.6V
    PIN13-15.6V
    PIN14- 0V
    PIN15- 0V
    PIN16-6.0V
    PIN17-15.3V
    PIN18-15.6V
    PIN19-15.6V
    PIN20-19V

    I know that pin 17/18/19v is wrong as pin18 is HIDRV and I'm not getting the requisite voltage and hence gate of Pu4405 is not opening. But i couldnt find it whats wrong.

    PU4201 pin4-3v and pu4402 pin4 is 1.7v which is correct.

    PQ4201 and PQ4202 Voltages are ok as per schematics.

    PR4205 is 33.3 Ohms and i"m getting PSID_EC signal.

    PD4401-pin2 is 6v but pin1 remains 15.6v.

    I've replaced BQ737 with a known good IC(same bq737) and even replaced PU4405/06 with SI412 but with no change.

    I request members here to guide me.
  • mcplslg123
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    • Jun 2015
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    #2
    Re: Dell inspiron 15 la-b843p charging issue

    Here is the schematics attached
    Attached Files

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    • mcplslg123
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      • Jun 2015
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      #3
      Re: Dell inspiron 15 la-b843p charging issue

      Btw, Repair was attempted on this mb by someone earlier before it came to my bench. Laptop was turning on only if backup battery is removed . Lot of wrong/mismatched components were removed/replaced and now it is showing plugged in charging but actually not charging.

      Battery is Dell original and is checked good on another laptop.

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      • on/off
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        • Oct 2016
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        • Indonesia

        #4
        Re: Dell inspiron 15 la-b843p charging issue

        Are you sure that schematic is match?
        For me your file is wistron iris. Very confuse...
        Btw, there was la-b843p on refixpro seem fit for you, but have no access to download it.
        I afraid the one who attempt to repair make more change lot position of components, even you bro.

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        • mcplslg123
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          • Jun 2015
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          Re: Dell inspiron 15 la-b843p charging issue

          Originally posted by on/off
          Are you sure that schematic is match?
          For me your file is wistron iris. Very confuse...
          Btw, there was la-b843p on refixpro seem fit for you, but have no access to download it.
          I afraid the one who attempt to repair make more change lot position of components, even you bro.
          Though schematic i have attached is for different platform but the charger is same and it matches perfectly with LA-B843P.

          Though the previous guy did a lot of wrong things but i have fixed them all and now the circuit is as it should be. So we can try to fix it.

          The only thing to bother is High and Low side charging circuit.

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          • on/off
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            • Oct 2016
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            #6
            Re: Dell inspiron 15 la-b843p charging issue

            Originally posted by mcplslg123
            Though schematic i have attached is for different platform but the charger is same and it matches perfectly with LA-B843P.
            Yes, you was correct. compare it HD image with those schematic seem ALL matched.

            Originally posted by mcplslg123
            Though the previous guy did a lot of wrong things but i have fixed them all and now the circuit is as it should be. So we can try to fix it.
            Good idea compare it with HD image for last inpection.
            link HD image:
            https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bw...2Vqdmh5T3F5cHc
            Thanks to Rimas.

            Originally posted by mcplslg123
            The only thing to bother is High and Low side charging circuit.
            I think is fine, since schematic matched.

            Originally posted by mcplslg123
            Btw, Repair was attempted on this mb by someone earlier before it came to my bench. Laptop was turning on only if backup battery is removed . Lot of wrong/mismatched components were removed/replaced and now it is showing plugged in charging but actually not charging.
            Interesting.
            Maybe there are components near BATT socket was change value.(page 43)

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            • smali
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              • Sep 2014
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              • Pakistan

              #7
              Re: Dell inspiron 15 la-b843p charging issue

              check shortage or any leakage between the drain and source of pu4201 and pu4402..

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              • mcplslg123
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                • Jun 2015
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                #8
                Re: Dell inspiron 15 la-b843p charging issue

                Originally posted by smali
                check shortage or any leakage between the drain and source of pu4201 and pu4402..
                Both are ok. Checked them out of circuit as well.

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                • mcplslg123
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                  • Jun 2015
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                  #9
                  Re: Dell inspiron 15 la-b843p charging issue

                  Dear On/OFF, mb matches perfectly with the HD image link you provided though i already downloaded HD imahe from some russian forum and matched it. There is no missing components and all resistors, IC's i checked are found to be ok.

                  Any ideas guys...

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                  • SMDFlea
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                    • Jan 2018
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                    • UK

                    #10
                    Re: Dell inspiron 15 la-b843p charging issue

                    Can you check voltage on each pin of PR4204 and PR4205
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                    • on/off
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                      • Oct 2016
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                      #11
                      Re: Dell inspiron 15 la-b843p charging issue

                      Maybe KBC Chips need to re-flash. Since KBC chip is Host for charging circuit. I remember you have SVOD.

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                      • mcplslg123
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                        • Jun 2015
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                        #12
                        Re: Dell inspiron 15 la-b843p charging issue

                        Originally posted by on/off
                        Maybe KBC Chips need to re-flash. Since KBC chip is Host for charging circuit. I remember you have SVOD.
                        kbc here is nuvoton285 which is not programmable.

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                        • mcplslg123
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                          #13
                          Re: Dell inspiron 15 la-b843p charging issue

                          Originally posted by SMDFlea
                          Can you check voltage on each pin of PR4204 and PR4205
                          I'll measure and report back within next 2days. My office is under renovation as i'm adding some more equipments and changing the furniture.

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                          • mcplslg123
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                            #14
                            Re: Dell inspiron 15 la-b843p charging issue

                            Friends, finally problem solved though i could'nt understand the logic. Here is what happened::

                            01. I got another laptop(same specs, same mobo) for repair. It was dead and i fixed it.

                            02. I checked display and battery was charging on this laptop.

                            03.I checked the other battery(for which i started this thread) and it was charging. So battery was good.

                            04. Now, when i swapped the batteries between these two laptops -both laptops are charging battery. Restored back original batteries to the respective laptops-again one unit not charging.

                            So though problem solved but i'm still puzzled why the other battery is not charging in one mb but gets charged on the other mb.

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                            • erhanabdullah
                              Member
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 24
                              • turkey

                              #15
                              Re: Dell inspiron 15 la-b843p charging issue

                              I met this problem .I found problem on ID pin's voltage of adaptor .ID pin or other name PSID_EC voltage must be 3.3v. Defective resistor can be 130 ohm.Charge is ok and there is no message on boot
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                              Last edited by erhanabdullah; 04-27-2019, 03:42 AM.

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                              • mcplslg123
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                                Re: Dell inspiron 15 la-b843p charging issue

                                Originally posted by erhanabdullah
                                I met this problem .I found problem on ID pin's voltage of adaptor .ID pin or other name PSID_EC voltage must be 3.3v. Defective resistor can be 130 ohm.Charge is ok and there is no message on boot
                                Thats a different matter altogether. In my case psid_ec was ok at 3.3v.

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                                • diegosgarcia81
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                                  • Jul 2020
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Dell inspiron 15 la-b843p charging issue

                                  i have same issue

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