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  • MEB
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    • Sep 2013
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    Dell Inspiron 5150 Laptop

    Hello, new to "Troubleshooting Laptops", not a stranger to the forum though. It is the best. Don't know anything about laptop repair and very little about computers, but with the help of budm and others, I have managed to fix quite a few LCD monitors and a couple TVs.
    I am asking for help to fix this laptop. I am not interested in swapping the motherboard. It isn't worth much to anyone but me, and if someone can help me, it will make a nice gift for my daughter. I won't give up till you do, so here we go.
    The problem I have is with the battery installed, the laptop does absolutely nothing even when the power button is depressed, most likely because the battery is surely dead. Upon plugging in the Dell PA-3E adapter I have, the device status LEDs illuminate as follows as soon as the adapter is attached. The Left power LED turns on solid green and the Right Battery LED turns on solid orange which the manual says the battery charge is critically low. Both these light without ever doing anything except plugging the adapter in. Nothing changes upon depressing the power on/off button. Also holding the power button in for 30 seconds does nothing. No change in anything including the lit LEDs. Sitting for a day also changes nothing.
    I read every thread on the 5150 here and read everything on the internet. This model is plagued by 2 common problems so I snooped around using that information. Using the Dell Service manual, I completely disassembled the laptop. One common problem is the DC JACK. Using the attached Schematic (page 36) I measured 19+ DC on pins 1 and 2 of PCN 1 so I think the Jack is OK. Other problem is U56 gets pressed on by the C cover. After peeling off a piece of black plastic, visually U56 and all of its legs looked fine under magnification, but I went ahead and hit them with a little fresh solder. I watched a few YouTube videos, ordered some Artic Silver and cleaner, removed and cleaned the fan, greased the chip and put it all back together. I tried the “hook it up to a monitor thing”, which worked for quite a few. Nothing has improved.
    That is about all the wisdom I have on the matter. I do not have another battery. Right now the laptop is all back together, but I anxiously await someone to teach me. I have attached the schematic.
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  • samanthban
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    Re: Dell Inspiron 5150 Laptop

    check pq 15 drain voltage
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    • MEB
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      Thanks for the reply. I have found PQ15 on the schematic and will tear into it this afternoon and report back.

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      • MEB
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        Ok, I am fearless but not totally understanding this and need to ask some questions before I do something stupid. I have the laptop totally apart and I think the PQ15 in question lies on the motherboard under a heat sink. My instructions are to check the drain voltage, but that means applying power via the AC adapter to the board. I envisioned taking everything apart and putting it all back together minus the plastic and plugging it in allowing me to make the measurements. But the processor and its cooling apparatus are held to the board by bolting to the case so I am unsure what the method of powering up the board safely is. Am I to remove the fan and cooling thing from the chip without actually attempting to fire the thing up and just see what voltage I get at the drain of the PQ15 due to plugging the adapter in? Or am I supposed to take the reading before, during and after pressing the power on button? This is all new to me inside of this and I need some basic direction. Maybe there are some basic laptop troubleshooting tips on the forum someone could direct me to? Like I said originally, I haven't worked on computers so am being cautious. Thanks.

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        • samanthban
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          Re: Dell Inspiron 5150 Laptop

          This is a 8 pin Ic and generally near to the dc jack.keep the cpu with fan and connect your adapter without pressing power button check pin 5 to 8 .
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          • MEB
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            Thank you for the update and clarification. I am learning. It is way past my bedtime in the US, but I will perform your test tomorrow and give you the results.

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            • MEB
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              Ok, I am getting 19.52VDC at pins 5-8 of PQ15. I have enclosed a little picture. The board has been cleaned since the photo as it was pretty dusty. The guys inside the yellow looked kind of strange, but they live under a heat sink with some sort of thermal foam, so maybe that is normal? Anyway, thanks and I am anxiously awaiting your reply.
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              • clearchris
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                Hi. Im watching this thread with interest. I have a 5160 that exhibits the same problem. This is apparently a common issue with these boards and there was a recall because of it. IMHO, they didnt fix the underlying issue, they swapped out new/refurbished boards that would develop the problem later.

                Where did you find the schematic for this board? Im sure they are largely similar, but Id like to find one for the 5160.

                Let us know if you make any progress on this, Ill do the same. I havent looked at this machine for a while, bit it would make a nice bench machine to hook up to a usb microscope...

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                • MEB
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                  hello clearchris. Glad you have interest. I found the schematic on Google. I will snoop around the usual places for you, but I was extremely lucky to find that one. I'm on a mission and will take this one to the end as long as the knowledgeable folks here continue to help.

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                  • MEB
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                    clearchris, I am new to laptops, but my searching for 5160 schematics reveal the same as the 5150. I suspect the board schematics are identical. I will get the number off my board tomorrow and comparing to yours would maybe answer that question.

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                    • clearchris
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                      Excellent, thank you. Once I finish my current project Im on board with this one!

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                      • wawaha
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                        Re: Dell Inspiron 5150 Laptop

                        hello againt add new thread o have problem pleaz help me

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                        • clearchris
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                          Ok! Laptop is on bench.

                          I put the mini pci.post card in, push the power and get nothing. There are two leds lit however.

                          There is a lot of wiggle in the power jack. I have ordered another from a domestic supplier.

                          Hopefully that gets me going. Any progress on your end?

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                          • MEB
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                            Awaiting some direction from the forum. If no help, I will see what sort of damage I can do on my own. You know what they say about idle hands! LA-1682 is silkscreened on the back of the motherboard which correlates to the number on the schematic. Betting same as on yours.

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                            • samanthban
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                              ok check u29 voltage ,batt connector voltage and post it
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                              • samanthban
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                                ....
                                Last edited by samanthban; 10-06-2015, 01:54 AM.
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                                • MEB
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                                  OK, I have included the measurements as requested.
                                  PCN1 is the DC PWR Jack, REF schematic page 36
                                  PCN2 is the Battery Connector, REF schematic page 36
                                  U29, Ref schematic page 33

                                  Readings are as follows:

                                  PCN1 1 - 3.342 VDC
                                  2 - 19.32
                                  3 - 19. 32
                                  4 - GND
                                  5 - GND
                                  6 – GND
                                  7 – GND
                                  8 - GND

                                  PCN2 1 - 1.470 VDC
                                  2 - 1.470
                                  3 - 3.325
                                  4 - 0
                                  5 - 3.347
                                  6 – 4.984
                                  7 – 4.984
                                  8 - GND
                                  9 - GND

                                  U29 1 - 4.943 VDC
                                  2 - GND
                                  3 - GND
                                  4 - GND
                                  5 - 4.984
                                  6 - 4.984
                                  7 - 0
                                  8 - 4.987


                                  Hope this makes sense and thanks for the help.

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                                  • samanthban
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                                    That voltages ok ,check power button voltage and u32 pin 173 150 151 with cro
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                                    • MEB
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                                      OK, I hope this is what you asked for. Honestly, I had to Google “cro” but if your meaning is Cathode Ray Oscilloscope then maybe I did alright. I am not very fluent with one but I got one and these are my results.

                                      U32
                                      Pins 150, 151 and 173 – 3.2 VDC (with cro)

                                      Was unsure what to do about the “power button voltage” but I think I may have stumbled on to what you wanted. On the bottom of the little PCB which the power button depresses the little switch, there is a 10 pin connector. With my voltmeter, I get continuity between pins 1 and 2 when depressing the switch. So the switch is good I believe. But I didn't think that was what you were wanting so I looked at the schematics and found “Power BTN” on page 34. I located R186 and read 3.35 VDC there with my meter. I am still not sure if that is what you need, so please instruct me if not. Thanks so much for your wisdom.

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                                      • samanthban
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                                        This is not about voltage some time voltage present without signal check whether bios Ic corresponding with Ec

                                        please check u 16

                                        D0-d7 signal

                                        pin 10,31,30--3.3v

                                        pin 22,24,9 --signal



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