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  • lcdcaps1
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Oct 2011
    • 322

    #1

    Acer 7741g No power from DC but works from charged battery. Please help

    Hi

    I hope everyone is well and good.
    I have a Acer 7741g Laptop that has suddenly stopped getting power from the charger.

    It works from a charged batter but does not charge battery from charger or work without battery present.
    I have tried , turning it off and keeping power button pressed, keeping it off, tried new charger.

    The weird thing is that both chargers are getting 19V output but when plugged into the jack the green LED on the charger goes out. When I take it out from the jack the charger LED glows green.

    I have replaced the jack and have tested the jack. The jack is stand alone so I have tested it and get 19V output.

    I have connected the Jack to the motherboard and tested for output on the pins on connector DCIN1 and get 16V on the multi meter but the value on the multi meter keeps fluctuating, goes from 14 to 16V and keeps changing.

    I have managed to get the schematic from google and have been reading it but I am need for some help please. I have attached the motherboard schematic.

    I know I can replace the motherboard but I would prefer to fix this as this laptop was working fine and just suddenly stopped getting power from charger one evening.

    Please can someone help me. I will appreciate it very much.

    I look forward to the responses

    Many Thanks
    Kind Regards
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  • lcdcaps1
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Oct 2011
    • 322

    #2
    Re: Acer 7741g No power from DC but works from charged battery. Please help

    Hi
    I wanted to add that one charger LED goes dim green when plugged into the JACK and one charger LED just goes off when plugged into the JACK but bother chargers produce 19 V output.

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    • megaraider
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Jul 2015
      • 307
      • Portugal

      #3
      Re: Acer 7741g No power from DC but works from charged battery. Please help

      Check schematics on page 54.
      Most likely the reverse protection voltage diodes, D10 & D11, are shorted.

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      • lcdcaps1
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Oct 2011
        • 322

        #4
        Re: Acer 7741g No power from DC but works from charged battery. Please help

        Hi
        Maybe a silly question but how could I check if these diodes are faulty.
        If I replace them will the laptop work as it should. If possible I would like to order all the parts I need in one go. Also if some one could let me know the best way to test the diode without taking it out and with a multi meter please

        Thanks again

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        • lcdcaps1
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Oct 2011
          • 322

          #5
          Re: Acer 7741g No power from DC but works from charged battery. Please help

          I checked d10 and d11 in continuity mode and my multi meter beeped.
          Does this mean that they are bad ?

          I also checked U32 AND U33.
          U33 has the same voltage that is present at DC IN 1 on pin 1 but nothing on pin 8
          U32 has no voltage on pin 1 and pin 8

          Does this mean I need to replace d10, d11, u32 and u33
          Please people advise

          Many Thanks

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          • dj_ricoh
            Badcaps Legend
            • Jan 2013
            • 2073
            • uk

            #6
            Re: Acer 7741g No power from DC but works from charged battery. Please help

            Do you understand the concept of a fuse?
            Because I'm trying to tell you how the diode works.
            Just cook it! It's already broken.

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            • lcdcaps1
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Oct 2011
              • 322

              #7
              Re: Acer 7741g No power from DC but works from charged battery. Please help

              Yes I do
              I have tested them but i cannot find a exact replacement for d10 and d11
              can some one advise me if d10 and d11 are unidirectional or bidirectional

              please

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              • dj_ricoh
                Badcaps Legend
                • Jan 2013
                • 2073
                • uk

                #8
                Re: Acer 7741g No power from DC but works from charged battery. Please help

                What diagram its good?
                Just cook it! It's already broken.

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                • lcdcaps1
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 322

                  #9
                  Re: Acer 7741g No power from DC but works from charged battery. Please help

                  I have attached schematic on the original post
                  what do you mean its good

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                  • dj_ricoh
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 2073
                    • uk

                    #10
                    Re: Acer 7741g No power from DC but works from charged battery. Please help

                    There are 2.
                    They are the same?
                    Where I'm now it takes 5 min to download that diagram.

                    And I'm on the phone
                    Just cook it! It's already broken.

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                    • lcdcaps1
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 322

                      #11
                      Re: Acer 7741g No power from DC but works from charged battery. Please help

                      yes two of the same
                      will these work as a replacement
                      TVS SMD TVS Diodes SMBJ24A-E3 / 52 600W 24V unidirectional --BZXKJ
                      for d10 and d11

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                      • dj_ricoh
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 2073
                        • uk

                        #12
                        Re: Acer 7741g No power from DC but works from charged battery. Please help

                        Can't find your d10 d11 but those are not relevant.

                        Find pl2 and pl3 lift them up and see if get 19v on pads or charger goes off.

                        If it goes off then pc9 or pc11 shorted to ground.

                        If not then move to next step.

                        Find pd5 pq3 and pq25.

                        Same thing check voltage on pads and see if it shorts out the charger.

                        In this line you a couple more caps and one diode link to ground PD1.

                        If pd1 leakes then it stops the charger.

                        My money its on that diode. Just lift the diode up and it will work without.

                        Done 3 acer like this. Diode shorted to ground.
                        Just cook it! It's already broken.

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                        • lcdcaps1
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 322

                          #13
                          Re: Acer 7741g No power from DC but works from charged battery. Please help

                          I cant find any of the mentioned numbers on my motherboard
                          please can you refer to the schematic and let me know which points i need to test please
                          Also is there anyway to test without taking components out please

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                          • dj_ricoh
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 2073
                            • uk

                            #14
                            Re: Acer 7741g No power from DC but works from charged battery. Please help

                            From first diagram.
                            Page 31
                            Just cook it! It's already broken.

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                            • dj_ricoh
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 2073
                              • uk

                              #15
                              Re: Acer 7741g No power from DC but works from charged battery. Please help

                              Finger the components and see if something heats up.
                              Just cook it! It's already broken.

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                              • lcdcaps1
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 322

                                #16
                                Re: Acer 7741g No power from DC but works from charged battery. Please help

                                I have fingered the components and the diodes get very hot
                                will these TVS SMD TVS Diodes SMBJ24A-E3 / 52 600W 24V unidirectional --BZXKJ
                                work for replacements
                                please confirm
                                thanks

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                                • dj_ricoh
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Jan 2013
                                  • 2073
                                  • uk

                                  #17
                                  Re: Acer 7741g No power from DC but works from charged battery. Please help

                                  Pd1 or yours d10 and d11
                                  Just cook it! It's already broken.

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                                  • Khron
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Sep 2006
                                    • 1350
                                    • Finland

                                    #18
                                    Re: Acer 7741g No power from DC but works from charged battery. Please help

                                    For the record, the OP has been bugging me via private messages for the past couple of hours.

                                    http://www.digchip.com/datasheets/pa...J24APT-pdf.php

                                    That's the datasheet for the D10 and D11 part numbers from the service manual, so you can quit asking if those damn diodes you've found are good as replacements - THEY ARE.
                                    Khron's Cave - Electronics - Audio - Teardowns - Mods - Repairs - Projects - Music - Rants - Shenanigans

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                                    • lcdcaps1
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Oct 2011
                                      • 322

                                      #19
                                      Re: Acer 7741g No power from DC but works from charged battery. Please help

                                      For the record, I was not bugging and was just asking
                                      No need to get angry

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                                      • Khron
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Sep 2006
                                        • 1350
                                        • Finland

                                        #20
                                        Re: Acer 7741g No power from DC but works from charged battery. Please help

                                        Three (unanswered) messages within 10 minutes, while you were also getting help from others on this thread, is definitely "bugging"

                                        But good luck with the repair, now that you have all the information you need.
                                        Khron's Cave - Electronics - Audio - Teardowns - Mods - Repairs - Projects - Music - Rants - Shenanigans

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