Dell XPS 13 9370 - CAZ60 LA-E671P No POWER, No CHARGE

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  • D@nt3s_1nfern0
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    • Mar 2025
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    #21
    Originally posted by mon2
    What is the voltage to ground of:

    Pin 16 ; ADP (PU300)

    ALW_PWRGD_3V_5V
    PU300 Pin 16 voltage is 4.999v

    the net name you mentioned underneath corresponds to PU500 , if thats the one you wanted then the voltage on Pin 16 was 3.374v

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    • mon2
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      • Dec 2019
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      #22
      Measure the voltage on pin #9 of PU500 = PG = power good. Must be a logic '1' to denote the power is good.

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      • D@nt3s_1nfern0
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        #23
        Originally posted by mon2
        Measure the voltage on pin #9 of PU500 = PG = power good. Must be a logic '1' to denote the power is good.
        voltage on pin9 of PU500 is 3.344v

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        • mon2
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          • Dec 2019
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          #24
          Some of the inductor checks from post #2 were missed. Measure the resistance to ground of:

          PL601
          PL701
          PL801
          PL901

          PL1107
          PL1151
          PL1403
          PL1401
          PL1503
          PL1501

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          • D@nt3s_1nfern0
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            #25
            Originally posted by mon2
            Some of the inductor checks from post #2 were missed. Measure the resistance to ground of:

            PL601
            PL701
            PL801
            PL901

            PL1107
            PL1151
            PL1403
            PL1401
            PL1503
            PL1501
            PL601= 600 ohm
            PL701= 105 ohm
            PL801= 1.2 mega ohm
            PL901= 1.2 mega ohm

            PL1107= there is no component there
            PL1151=23.4 Ohm
            PL1403= 72 OHM
            PL1401=98 OHM
            PL1503= there is no component there
            PL1501= there is no component there

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            • D@nt3s_1nfern0
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              #26
              Originally posted by mon2
              Some of the inductor checks from post #2 were missed. Measure the resistance to ground of:

              PL601
              PL701
              PL801
              PL901

              PL1107
              PL1151
              PL1403
              PL1401
              PL1503
              PL1501
              in the places that are no components sould i just measure the pads ?

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              • mon2
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                • Dec 2019
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                #27
                No components should be ok to leave alone. They are likely optional parts for optional versions of the PCBA builds. Assuming that this unit worked as-is before otherwise if purchased from Ebay or similar - perhaps someone removed parts before selling the unit to you? Have had this happen on Ebay to us. Vultures in California - some hack of a repair shop there stripped off many critical parts from a macbook before selling to us. Destroyed our USB-C charger upon first use.

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                • D@nt3s_1nfern0
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by mon2
                  No components should be ok to leave alone. They are likely optional parts for optional versions of the PCBA builds. Assuming that this unit worked as-is before otherwise if purchased from Ebay or similar - perhaps someone removed parts before selling the unit to you? Have had this happen on Ebay to us. Vultures in California - some hack of a repair shop there stripped off many critical parts from a macbook before selling to us. Destroyed our USB-C charger upon first use.
                  No the device was not purcased from ebay. also i can confirm that the solder joints they look factory. so i believe they are optional for other versions of PCBA.

                  Is your mind guessing why te board is behaving like that? you think the PU300 is faulty ?

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                  • mon2
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                    • Dec 2019
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                    #29
                    No. Suspecting at this time that there is something wrong with the power delivery controller. The PD controllers @ U19 / U20 / U21 are responsible to communicate with the external power adapter to extract the power contracts and then select the best one to fully power this board. Perhaps the firmware of the PD controller (held inside of UT6) is corrupted. It is strange that the 20V pd contract is actually selected and then reset back to the 5v default.

                    Do you see the same reaction for all USB-C ports? Do test each USB-C port by rotating the USB-C connector by 180 degrees to confirm the opposite side of each connector. This process will test the CC1 and also the CC2 communication lines that are present on each USB-C connector.

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                    • D@nt3s_1nfern0
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by mon2
                      No. Suspecting at this time that there is something wrong with the power delivery controller. The PD controllers @ U19 / U20 / U21 are responsible to communicate with the external power adapter to extract the power contracts and then select the best one to fully power this board. Perhaps the firmware of the PD controller (held inside of UT6) is corrupted. It is strange that the 20V pd contract is actually selected and then reset back to the 5v default.

                      Do you see the same reaction for all USB-C ports? Do test each USB-C port by rotating the USB-C connector by 180 degrees to confirm the opposite side of each connector. This process will test the CC1 and also the CC2 communication lines that are present on each USB-C connector.
                      Yes i just did checked all 3 usb ports on both sides of the Type C. They all behave the same. Is there a controller that regulates all of these ports ?

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                      • mon2
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                        • Dec 2019
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                        #31
                        There is a local PD controller for each port but it appears that only one is holding the firmware @ UT6 flash device. One thought is that perhaps after the 20V PD contract is reached, an event of excessive current draw occurs and is reported back to the PD controller(s) to power down. This flag would be through one of the GPIO pins on the PD controllers and the firmware would have to be coded to support this feature.

                        Suggest to backup and reflash UT6 provided a dump of this flash memory is available. Only a suggestion to rule out firmware corruption. It does take working firmware to negotiate the 20v contracts but why does it reset back to 5v??

                        Are you power cycling with the USB-C meter?

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                        • D@nt3s_1nfern0
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                          #32
                          Originally posted by mon2
                          There is a local PD controller for each port but it appears that only one is holding the firmware @ UT6 flash device. One thought is that perhaps after the 20V PD contract is reached, an event of excessive current draw occurs and is reported back to the PD controller(s) to power down. This flag would be through one of the GPIO pins on the PD controllers and the firmware would have to be coded to support this feature.

                          Suggest to backup and reflash UT6 provided a dump of this flash memory is available. Only a suggestion to rule out firmware corruption. It does take working firmware to negotiate the 20v contracts but why does it reset back to 5v??

                          Are you power cycling with the USB-C meter?
                          Hello mon2 and goodmorning (from greece)

                          unfortunately i do not have the tools to do reflash of the UT6. Can that chip be replaced if i buy one from the internet ?

                          i tried to power cycle with and without the usb-c meter

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