Dynabook Satellite Pro L50-G-1C2 - No boot / no charge

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  • nosfay
    Senior Member
    • May 2024
    • 62
    • France

    #1

    Dynabook Satellite Pro L50-G-1C2 - No boot / no charge

    Hi,
    I've got a Dynabook Satellite Pro L50-G-1C2 that doesn't charge or power on.
    Checked AC adapter first, it's good.
    I've found some corrosion near a mosfet, and it's shorted from source to drain, identical mosfet close is shorted the same way.
    I cannot find the datasheet or spare, reference is 6794 - GPOH11.
    I need help to find what it is please

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  • mon2
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2019
    • 14181
    • Canada

    #2
    The insignia appears to be Alpha Omega from a distance.

    AON6794.pdf (aosmd.com)

    Jellybean mosfet. N-channel type. Can be replaced with many others from other donor boards that will have the BQ charger IC onboard so they too will be driving N-channel mosfets like this one.

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    • nosfay
      Senior Member
      • May 2024
      • 62
      • France

      #3
      You're right, thank you !

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      • mcplslg123
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jun 2015
        • 7262
        • india

        #4
        Are you sure the mosfets are shorted? They are likely to show very lows impedance in circuit as part og cpu/gpu rails. better to de solder the mosfets and then test them out of circuit. Verly likely not shorted.

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        • nosfay
          Senior Member
          • May 2024
          • 62
          • France

          #5
          Indeed, both are good out of board. I've found one component close to them that heat a lot when AC charger is plugged.

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          I can't read the reference, it's something like APBM 861.

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          • mon2
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            • Dec 2019
            • 14181
            • Canada

            #6
            MPS # NB680AGD

            (from the above sticky thread on IC part markings = APB*)

            monolithicpower.com/en/documentview/productdocument/index/version/2/document_type/Datasheet/lang/en/sku/NB680/document_id/4031/

            (5piece)100% New NB680AGD-Z NB680AGD NB680A (APBF APBE APBG APB*) QFN-12 NB680 NB680GD NB680GD-Z ALV.. - AliExpress 502

            Parts Markings thread:

            IC Marking Codes and Datasheets - Badcaps
            Last edited by mon2; 09-05-2024, 10:41 AM.

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            • nosfay
              Senior Member
              • May 2024
              • 62
              • France

              #7
              Thank you

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              • nosfay
                Senior Member
                • May 2024
                • 62
                • France

                #8
                I've replace the part, and it's still heat a lot. Do you know what can I check next? I dont have schematic.
                I've found 19v and 5v on the board.
                Replaced part is a 3.3v buck converter.

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                • mon2
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Dec 2019
                  • 14181
                  • Canada

                  #9
                  Remove all power. Meter in resistance mode.

                  Measure the resistance from the output of this switching regulator (see the red arrow) to ground (see other red arrow). What is the resistance in ohms?

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                  • nosfay
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2024
                    • 62
                    • France

                    #10
                    This is what I got:

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                    • nosfay
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2024
                      • 62
                      • France

                      #11
                      Are these measurement OK ?

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                      • nosfay
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2024
                        • 62
                        • France

                        #12
                        I've found a similar issue here :https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubl...-gets-very-hot

                        They talk about a possible short on RTC circuit, but I don't know how to check it and what it does, if someone may help me

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                        • nosfay
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2024
                          • 62
                          • France

                          #13
                          Iv'e done some voltage measurement, here is what I've got:

                          Vin = 19v
                          Vout = 0v
                          LDO = 0.9v
                          EN = 0.8v
                          VCC = 3.66v
                          BST = 3.5v
                          SW = 0v
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                          I've joined aswell motherboard photo.
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                          • mon2
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                            • Dec 2019
                            • 14181
                            • Canada

                            #14
                            The EN voltage is too low to enable the switching regulator inside this device. The signal needs to be a logic ‘1’ = ~ 3 volts to enable.

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                            • nosfay
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2024
                              • 62
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                              #15
                              If it's too low, it can heat the buck converter?

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                              • mon2
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                                • Dec 2019
                                • 14181
                                • Canada

                                #16
                                With such a low enable voltage, the switching regulator will not enable. The resistance to ground at the output is not low enough to cause the immense heating of this regulator.

                                The other regulator is the LDO rail which appears to be a fixed ON low current regulator. Such regulators literally burn the high input voltage of 19v down to the target LDO voltage so it will heat up the part in the process. The output of the LDO rail does not appear to be shorted either yet the output LDO voltage is very low. The other thread mentions a short in the RTC (real time clock) but the resistance to ground of this LDO does not show a short condition.

                                The posted pic looks clean with respect to soldering. Do confirm again the resistance to ground of the LDO and the SW rails - with no power to the board.

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                                • nosfay
                                  Senior Member
                                  • May 2024
                                  • 62
                                  • France

                                  #17
                                  Hi,
                                  Resistance are the same.
                                  I've removed the buck converter et do voltage measurements:
                                  - EN = 0.15v
                                  - LDO = 0.18v
                                  - Vout = 0.15v

                                  Then I've injected 1.5v / 0.5A to LDO, and saw a hot component near the battery connector.


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                                  It's a Schotkky diode, model BAT54C, I'll try to replace it.

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                                  • nosfay
                                    Senior Member
                                    • May 2024
                                    • 62
                                    • France

                                    #18
                                    Hi,
                                    I've replaced the diode, but the converter is still heating a lot (130° with thermal camera).
                                    But now I've found 5.1v, 3.4v and 1.05v on some board test point, then I lost 3.4v and 1.05v because I guess the buck converter goes in thermal protection (140°c in datasheet)

                                    Tension :

                                    Vin = 19v
                                    Vout = 3.4v before thermal shutdown, 0v after
                                    LDO = 2.1v
                                    EN = 1.95v
                                    VCC = 3.66v
                                    BST = 3.5v
                                    SW = 0v

                                    Resistance (no power) :
                                    Vin = 75kΩ​
                                    Vout = 27kΩ​
                                    LDO = 1.7kΩ​
                                    EN = 475kΩ​
                                    VCC = 0.85MΩ​
                                    BST = OL
                                    SW = 27kΩ​

                                    1.05v test point : 45Ω​

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                                    • nosfay
                                      Senior Member
                                      • May 2024
                                      • 62
                                      • France

                                      #19
                                      Any idea on what I can try next ?

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                                      • mon2
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Dec 2019
                                        • 14181
                                        • Canada

                                        #20
                                        Which diode was used for the replacement? Was it with the same suffix? It is important.

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