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  • sasser
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Dec 2012
    • 364
    • Malaysia

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    Please help me ACER ASpire 4750z auto power on

    hye all profesional here. i got 1 acer aspire 4750z. the problem is when the charger is connected to laptop system power up without presssing button. when shutdown my laptop restart not totaly power off.

    my solution is replace new cmos battery--not ok this laptop power on without cmos battery when put batery cmos laptop cant power on

    3v/5v/19v all present value

    already flash bios -- still same

    check processors / ram --all good.

    check all mosfet -- no trace fault

    help me
  • spidey
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    • Dec 2012
    • 644
    • Cyprus

    #2
    Re: Please help me ACER ASpire 4750z auto power on

    reflow south.

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    • sasser
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Dec 2012
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      #3
      Re: Please help me ACER ASpire 4750z auto power on

      Originally posted by spidey
      reflow south.
      Tq spidey. I try later then post the result here

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      • sasser
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Dec 2012
        • 364
        • Malaysia

        #4
        Re: Please help me ACER ASpire 4750z auto power on

        Originally posted by spidey
        reflow south.

        after reflow laptop cant power on only orange indicator light appear. look at the picture . any one have an idea? now my laptop cant on

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        • spidey
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          • Dec 2012
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          #5
          Re: Please help me ACER ASpire 4750z auto power on

          if you heated too much it is possible. did you apply flux under it before heating ? Try reflow again, if it doesnt work you have to reball or replace with a new one.
          Last edited by spidey; 06-04-2013, 05:49 AM.

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          • sasser
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Dec 2012
            • 364
            • Malaysia

            #6
            Re: Please help me ACER ASpire 4750z auto power on

            thanks spidey. i update latest now my laptop can turn on till window desktop. the problem before this bios chip cold solder join. so i fix with resolder back. acer give orange indicator as checker bios problem. if im wrong let me know.

            my problem now is my laptop can turn on without cmos battery. anyone help me what the problem is ? maybe im do some missing checking.

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            • sasser
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Dec 2012
              • 364
              • Malaysia

              #7
              Re: Please help me ACER ASpire 4750z auto power on




              im study the rtc power. seem like leakage for Q6001. pin 3 i got same value rtc batery. that wrong or not?

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              • Francisco.s
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                • Jan 2013
                • 686
                • Spain

                #8
                Re: Please help me ACER ASpire 4750z auto power on

                im study the rtc power. seem like leakage for Q6001. pin 3 i got same value rtc batery. that wrong or not?
                Currents involved in that circuit, are extremely low, so voltage drop in resistance are also low, so I think are normal values.

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                • sasser
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                  • Dec 2012
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                  #9
                  Re: Please help me ACER ASpire 4750z auto power on

                  Ok thanks for your info francisco. Im still not found where the leakage. My laptop still outo power on cant shutdown also. Put rtc batteries cant power on

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                  • spidey
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                    • Dec 2012
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                    #10
                    Re: Please help me ACER ASpire 4750z auto power on

                    it is south bridge, if reflow didnt work, you must reball. it is the solution.

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                    • Francisco.s
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                      • Jan 2013
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                      #11
                      Re: Please help me ACER ASpire 4750z auto power on

                      my problem now is my laptop can turn on without cmos battery. anyone help me what the problem is ? maybe im do some missing checking.
                      I don't understand what you say, and what the problem is.
                      All laptops can turn on without cmos battery, but obviously all settings will lost.

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                      • spidey
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                        • Dec 2012
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                        #12
                        Re: Please help me ACER ASpire 4750z auto power on

                        Originally posted by Francisco.s
                        I don't understand what you say, and what the problem is.
                        All laptops can turn on without cmos battery, but obviously all settings will lost.
                        No, it is not true. You cant power on AMD systems, and most of intel systems, without cmos battery installed.

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                        • tomodachi
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                          • Apr 2012
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                          #13
                          Re: Please help me ACER ASpire 4750z auto power on

                          Originally posted by spidey
                          No, it is not true. You cant power on AMD systems, and most of intel systems, without cmos battery installed.

                          Yeah I agree that.

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                          • Francisco.s
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                            • Jan 2013
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                            #14
                            Re: Please help me ACER ASpire 4750z auto power on

                            Originally posted by spidey
                            No, it is not true. You cant power on AMD systems, and most of intel systems, without cmos battery installed.
                            I always disconnect the cmos battery when reprogramming bios chip, and only reconnect it when the motherboard is fully functional. Till now I haven`t any issues.

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                            • sasser
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                              • Dec 2012
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                              #15
                              Re: Please help me ACER ASpire 4750z auto power on

                              Originally posted by spidey
                              No, it is not true. You cant power on AMD systems, and most of intel systems, without cmos battery installed.
                              Agree spidey then fyi acer like 4551 aspire 4732 4810 also hav check all voltage and if your rtc batteries below 1.8v the system cant power on. After replace then system up thats my exp. But for this problem 4750z still no solution. I musy follow suggestion from spidey to reball sb

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                              • Francisco.s
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                                • Jan 2013
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                                #16
                                Re: Please help me ACER ASpire 4750z auto power on

                                Originally posted by spidey
                                No, it is not true. You cant power on AMD systems, and most of intel systems, without cmos battery installed.
                                Hi all,
                                Right now, I have a Sony vgn-nw21(cpu Intel) and an Asus x5 (cpu Amd) that works without the cmos battery, and woks perfectly well. (except date and clock)
                                Perhaps the controversy is that you have cmos battery connected, and is draining current from VCC_RTC, due to internal leakage.
                                Sometime I can read in forums what you say, but till now, it never happen to me.
                                Regards.

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                                • sasser
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Dec 2012
                                  • 364
                                  • Malaysia

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                                  Re: Please help me ACER ASpire 4750z auto power on

                                  thanks for sharing your knowledge here. back to the main problem anyone can guide me what should to do. the problem auto on still happen. i got also compaq v3000 also turn on automatically when charger is pluged in with no display.

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                                  • Francisco.s
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Jan 2013
                                    • 686
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Please help me ACER ASpire 4750z auto power on

                                    Originally posted by sasser
                                    thanks for sharing your knowledge here. back to the main problem anyone can guide me what should to do. the problem auto on still happen. i got also compaq v3000 also turn on automatically when charger is pluged in with no display.
                                    What about reball sb?

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                                    • sasser
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Dec 2012
                                      • 364
                                      • Malaysia

                                      #19
                                      Re: Please help me ACER ASpire 4750z auto power on

                                      Originally posted by Francisco.s
                                      What about reball sb?
                                      ok i will try it. reball acer sb. any update i post here thanks

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                                      • aspire550z
                                        New Member
                                        • Oct 2011
                                        • 5
                                        • TM

                                        #20
                                        Re: Please help me ACER ASpire 4750z auto power on

                                        Originally posted by Francisco.s
                                        Hi all,
                                        Right now, I have a Sony vgn-nw21(cpu Intel) and an Asus x5 (cpu Amd) that works without the cmos battery, and woks perfectly well. (except date and clock)
                                        Perhaps the controversy is that you have cmos battery connected, and is draining current from VCC_RTC, due to internal leakage.
                                        Sometime I can read in forums what you say, but till now, it never happen to me.
                                        Regards.
                                        you should try on aspire 4551....

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