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  • pocgoc
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    • Nov 2012
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    • Singapore

    #1

    lenovo G550 zombie laptop.

    Hi i have a Lenovo G550 laptop.
    It has no LED lights , no charging and no sign of power.
    I checked the charger 19.34v so its okay, checked the DC Jack it is sending power to the board okay. But the gateways and capaictors have power running through it.
    Bad bios flash maybe? Or maybe a power controller chip.
    No lights on charging
    no power with charger and battery

    Model :KIWA7 LA-5082P

    datasheet link:
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/132659282/...3da3ydwhq551tq
    Last edited by pocgoc; 03-27-2013, 10:51 AM.
  • pocgoc
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    Re: lenovo G550 zombie laptop.















    any tips on which compents to test first would be most welcome. PIcs
    Last edited by pocgoc; 03-27-2013, 10:46 AM.

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    • Tuomo
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 163
      • Finland

      #3
      Re: lenovo G550 zombie laptop.

      Originally posted by pocgoc
      Hi i have a Lenovo G550 laptop.
      It has no LED lights , no charging and no sign of power.
      I checked the charger 19.34v so its okay, checked the DC Jack it is sending power to the board okay. But the gateways and capaictors have power running through it.
      Bad bios flash maybe? Or maybe a power controller chip.
      No lights on charging
      no power with charger and battery

      Model :KIWA7 LA-5082P

      datasheet link:
      http://www.scribd.com/doc/132659282/...3da3ydwhq551tq
      First check voltages on PQ301 and PQ302.

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      • spidey
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        • Dec 2012
        • 644
        • Cyprus

        #4
        Re: lenovo G550 zombie laptop.

        first measure rtc battery at least 2.6v needed to power up. measure current to know if standby exist, then check 3v and +5v present. measure pwr button +3.3v, if there is then press button to see 0v. unless find the schem trace back to keyboard controller ic. still no re-program bios. still no ? connect to scope check south xtal. then check clock chip xtal. ten reflow south to see if it is the problem. if yes reball it unless change keyboard controller. But if you dont have +3 +5 v let me know.

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        • pocgoc
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          • Nov 2012
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          #5
          Re: lenovo G550 zombie laptop.

          Originally posted by spidey
          first measure rtc battery at least 2.6v needed to power up. measure current to know if standby exist, then check 3v and +5v present. measure pwr button +3.3v, if there is then press button to see 0v. unless find the schem trace back to keyboard controller ic. still no re-program bios. still no ? connect to scope check south xtal. then check clock chip xtal. ten reflow south to see if it is the problem. if yes reball it unless change keyboard controller. But if you dont have +3 +5 v let me know.
          Okay rtc =2.61v (ok)
          Pwr button = 17.42v - pressed button 0.00v (?)
          I can't get the current ,no standby?

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          • pocgoc
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            • Nov 2012
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            #6
            Re: lenovo G550 zombie laptop.

            Originally posted by Tuomo
            First check voltages on PQ301 and PQ302.
            pq301
            here is the results they look fine

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            • Tuomo
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 163
              • Finland

              #7
              Re: lenovo G550 zombie laptop.

              Originally posted by pocgoc
              pq301
              here is the results they look fine
              Yes, they are fine.

              Next 3V and 5V always PL401 and PL402.

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              • pocgoc
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                • Nov 2012
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                Re: lenovo G550 zombie laptop.

                PQ304 mosfet i have noticed, that its drains 5-8 have 0 volts and source 1-3 is 19.23v and Gateway 4 is 19.23v instead of 12.95v like pq302 and pq301 mosfet which are also FDS6675BZ

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                • pocgoc
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                  #9
                  Re: lenovo G550 zombie laptop.

                  Originally posted by pocgoc
                  pq304 mosfet i have noticed, that its drains 5-8 have 0 volts and source 1-3 is 19.23v and gateway 4 is 19.23v instead of 12.95v like pq302 and pq301 mosfet which are also fds6675bz
                  pl401 =0.025v
                  pl402 =0.008v

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                  • pocgoc
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                    • Nov 2012
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                    Re: lenovo G550 zombie laptop.



                    RICHTEK RT8206B GQW QFN 32pin Power IC Chip PU401 is heating up and is responsible for delivering and managing 3v and 5v supply in the board. Hmm i wonder is this the origin of my problem.

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                    • Tuomo
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 163
                      • Finland

                      #11
                      Re: lenovo G550 zombie laptop.

                      Originally posted by pocgoc
                      pl401 =0.025v
                      pl402 =0.008v
                      PQ302 etc. are P type mosfet, if Gate is 19V they are closed.

                      Always voltages missing. Nothing works vithout those voltages.

                      Can you measure PU401 PIN 6 VIN, PIN7 LDO.

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                      • pocgoc
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                        • Nov 2012
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                        #12
                        Re: lenovo G550 zombie laptop.

                        Originally posted by Tuomo
                        PQ302 etc. are P type mosfet, if Gate is 19V they are closed.

                        Always voltages missing. Nothing works vithout those voltages.

                        Can you measure PU401 PIN 6 VIN, PIN7 LDO.
                        PIN 7 IS 19.22V
                        PIN 6 is also 19.22v

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                        • Tuomo
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                          • Jan 2013
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                          #13
                          Re: lenovo G550 zombie laptop.

                          Originally posted by pocgoc
                          PIN 7 IS 19.22V
                          PIN 6 is also 19.22v
                          PIN7 Ok, PIN 6 VL usually 5V have to check.

                          Can you measure PIN 1, 4, 14, 27, 28.

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                          • Tuomo
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                            • Jan 2013
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                            #14
                            Re: lenovo G550 zombie laptop.

                            Originally posted by pocgoc

                            RICHTEK RT8206B GQW QFN 32pin Power IC Chip PU401 is heating up and is responsible for delivering and managing 3v and 5v supply in the board. Hmm i wonder is this the origin of my problem.
                            Yes it is very possible.

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                            • pocgoc
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                              #15
                              Re: lenovo G550 zombie laptop.

                              Originally posted by Tuomo
                              Yes it is very possible.
                              Thanks Tuomo , i got it going by replacing It with new one.

                              but now i got a dark screen , it doesn't power up the back light of the LCD. Tried 2 screens no back light on either.
                              I wonder is it my LCD cable, here is my LCD /dvi /Lvcds connector pinot with voltages
                              Any help Ill be very grateful

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                              • pocgoc
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                                Re: lenovo G550 zombie laptop.

                                I replaced the RICHTEK RT8206B GQW QFN 32pin Power IC Chip PU401.
                                1. I got power.
                                2. It turned on but the LCD was dim.
                                3. plugged in the battery , charged but U50 got extremely hot.
                                4. RT8206B PU401 failed , started heating up again.

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                                • Tuomo
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Jan 2013
                                  • 163
                                  • Finland

                                  #17
                                  Re: lenovo G550 zombie laptop.

                                  Originally posted by pocgoc
                                  I replaced the RICHTEK RT8206B GQW QFN 32pin Power IC Chip PU401.
                                  1. I got power.
                                  2. It turned on but the LCD was dim.
                                  3. plugged in the battery , charged but U50 got extremely hot.
                                  4. RT8206B PU401 failed , started heating up again.
                                  5VALW go to U50, and if U50 or U50 OUT is shorted it may cause RT8206B fail.

                                  Measure U50 OUT pins resistance and C440.
                                  Last edited by Tuomo; 04-18-2013, 09:08 AM.

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                                  • pocgoc
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                                    #18
                                    Re: lenovo G550 zombie laptop.

                                    C440 = 6.4 ohms

                                    U50:
                                    pin5(OC#)= 6.10kOhms
                                    pin6(out)=6.4ohms
                                    pin7(out)=6.5ohms
                                    pin8(out)=6.3ohms

                                    pin1(gnd)=0.2ohms
                                    pin1(IN)=6.5ohms
                                    pin1(IN)=6.5ohms
                                    pin4(EN)=1.9ohms

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                                    • pocgoc
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                                      #19
                                      Re: lenovo G550 zombie laptop.

                                      Originally posted by Tuomo
                                      5VALW go to U50, and if U50 or U50 OUT is shorted it may cause RT8206B fail.

                                      Measure U50 OUT pins resistance and C440.
                                      PIN 8 oc# = 6.10Kohms
                                      PIN 7 OUT = 6.5ohms
                                      PIN 6 OUT = 6.5ohms
                                      PIN 5 OUT = 6.5ohms
                                      PIN 4 EN = 1.9ohms
                                      PIN 3 IN - 6.5ohms
                                      PIN 2 IN = 6.5ohms
                                      PIN 1 GND = 0.2ohms

                                      C440 =6.4ohms

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                                      • Tuomo
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Jan 2013
                                        • 163
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                                        #20
                                        Re: lenovo G550 zombie laptop.

                                        Originally posted by pocgoc
                                        PIN 8 oc# = 6.10Kohms
                                        PIN 7 OUT = 6.5ohms
                                        PIN 6 OUT = 6.5ohms
                                        PIN 5 OUT = 6.5ohms
                                        PIN 4 EN = 1.9ohms
                                        PIN 3 IN - 6.5ohms
                                        PIN 2 IN = 6.5ohms
                                        PIN 1 GND = 0.2ohms

                                        C440 =6.4ohms
                                        U50 OUT pins are 5V for USB its resistance should be > 300ohm.

                                        Remove U50 and measure pins.

                                        If OUT pins still low resistance check USB connectors and C442 and C443.

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