Who the $#@& designs these things???

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Pi 2550, it's a friend's girlfriend's laptop and she wants to play sims3 on it. Arrived here because the bloke who installed XP for her had no idea how to install the video driver. Why don't people upgrade to 7 i dunno.

Video is ATI HD2400 XT. Quite a capable GPU. CPU is C2D T5550 1.83 gig. And it's a 85C tjunction chip (!!!). Needless to say, CPU throttling kicks in all the time and the machine runs like ass. GPU is at 96C under FurMark. Last warranty repair damaged the keyboard so that T and Y also press 5 and 6 and vice versa. Quite annoying to chat on as you could imagine.

I give it 4 months before it burns out, sims3 can be quite demanding. And it's out of warranty too. More $$$ for me in that case. But seriously, whoever designed this is an idiot. A blazing hot GPU paired with a 85C tjunction CPU, and a cooler that makes some noise but for some reason i can't feel much air going out. Great job Fujitsu. They're starting to resemble Acer for some reason.

Edit: GPU has reached 99C and CoreTemp now displays 87C (!)(?) for Core 0. Running past Tjunction at minimum clock and voltage. Awesome.
Edit 2: Wooo i killed it! It shut down. A bit too late tho. It needed to be left alone for a minute before it would power up again. Fujitsu gets my appreciation for at least installing a protection.

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

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Okay she just came to pick it up. I explained the situation, told her it's going to die soon if left unattended, it had already started shutting down randomly for the past month.

I explained that when it fails i'm not going to touch it but i know someone who does good repairs but also charges accordingly. It's going to be at least $100 for a new board (i got a quote of $110 for a new mobo for my dv9000, which i am going to replace eventually but i'll just run it till it dies) plus $70 or so for all the work involved to make sure it doesn't fail again. If sold for parts when it fails this guy will pay $180 at most given its current condition (several marks on LCD and the keyboard problem i already mentioned).

I asked for $60 to mod it now so it doesn't fail, but said that it's going to take a few days. So my friend (her bf) suggests that i should uninstall the video driver and give it back the way it arrived. She said that it's been shutting down randomly in the past month (without the driver installed in the first place). Besides, you can't even watch youtube properly without the video driver.

Me: "great i worked for nothing."
Him: "okay but leave the installer there"
Me: "sorry i deleted it already. (to her) okay from now on address all complaints to this guy. (to him) if you bring it to ME when it fails i'm gonna smash it to bits okay?"
Him: "calm down dude"
Me: "i'm calm. i just said i'm going to smash it if i see it again." i grab the laptop and *almost* hit the floor with it.
Him: "alright we'll be going"
Me: "Mkay, i'll be seeing you next weekend."

Me and this guy do hip hop beats together, he's quite a talented composer and he's a nice guy.
But i didn't like the way he decided for his girlfriend what the fate of her laptop will be AND he didn't trust me on a matter that he knows nothing about. After all, he asked me to take a look at it because he knows i'm good with this stuff, and then he did this. Work ain't free ya know.

[Scenic]

Re: Who the $#@& designs these things???

well.. not a coincidence that a bunch of fujitsu siemens laptops are 1:1 identical with gericoms and medions..

i don't think i need to tell you how much they suck..

[mockingbird]

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Regarding the 2400XT...

1) It is not a very powerful video card like you imagine. In the Radeon 2xxx series, unlike it's successors, only the 2900pro and XT had reasonably good performance. The lesser models were garbage.

2) The reason why the chip is overheating is because it is in need of a good reflow. When the contacts start to sever, the temperature tends to hit what you described. This is especially symptomatic of ATI chips.

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

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1) It is not a very powerful video card like you imagine. In the Radeon 2xxx series, unlike it's successors, only the 2900pro and XT had reasonably good performance. The lesser models were garbage.

It can't be worse than a nvidia onboard like the 7150. The 8400GS in my laptop would probably beat it but still. At least it ain't an intel integrated.

2) The reason why the chip is overheating is because it is in need of a good reflow. When the contacts start to sever, the temperature tends to hit what you described. This is especially symptomatic of ATI chips.

Maybe, but i don't really care. They can do whatever, i put all the options on the table and all i got was "put it back how it was" from him while she didn't object (and it's HER LAPTOP after all). The fun part was when i got a call from him afterwards asking me to apologize to his girl. I was like WTF??? Apparently someone took the "i'm going to smash it to bits" part too seriously. And he said that he told her that he trusts me on this stuff and that's why he brought it to me (yeah right he trusts me, that's why he asked me to put it back and let it run like sh**).

I did apologize just for the heck of it and she said "oh he did talk to you about it. hey don't worry it's nothing". I asked whether David said that he trusted me. She said that he didn't say so directly but it was obvious. Well, deduction != spoken word in my book. People tend to forget that i check my sources... I told him i don't want to meet his girlfriend in the first place, but it just happened that they both dropped by. Friends common to both parts are always trouble, i like to avoid this kind of situation, and rightfully so. Next time friends drop by with stuff to fix i'll just point them to someone else. Even if it means no $$$ for me, no $$$ is better than no $$$ AND sh***y situations on top of that.

I gave her the number of this service guy i know, told her once again what it's going to cost, and advised that she'd get it done ASAP coz it's cheaper to fix while it's still working. It's out of my hands now, i don't care what happens to it. Just because someone thinks his girl is a dumb bitch it doesn't mean that she isn't eligible to have her own opinion... but as always, IMO and YMMV.

[mockingbird]

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I see the disease of Westernized women has spread to your country.

Do not get married to them, they will transform you into a slave.

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

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That's funny - my grandparents keep telling me to get married. But firstly, i don't want to repeat my father's mistakes - get married have a kid grow him for a few years then leave. And my dad's a nice guy, honestly. But he got married to the wrong woman... they just didn't get along for some reason. Mom's cool until it comes to money, she doesn't know how to manage them. But since i've been mostly making my own, i don't have to care about that anymore. And my parents' folks never got along with each other. And always, always, i was in the middle of everything and had the most to suffer.

You see, everybody in my family wishes to do me good. Only their individual wishes of good conflict with the other members' wishes... and at one point i decided i had enough and said to my grandparents "I don't need anything from you no more, i'm going to earn my own so everybody can be happy". And for the most part i do. Of course i accept birthday/christmas/easter gifts but that's about it.

Since i was in the middle all the time, first with family, then friends, that's why i hate this kind of situation. The fun part is that from all the girls i get along with, none can be my gf for various reasons. Two of them are my cousins... one is into such deep sh** that she didn't want to drag me into it (even though if she'd listened to me she wouldn't have gotten in trouble in the first place), one can't make up her mind for once, one was my best friend from ages 11 to 16 and then just left one day, and the examples can go on. That's what you get for being a good brother.

I told this guy, if you keep bringing your girlfriend along and want all your friends to meet her, one of them is going to steal her from you. Got a few girls this very same way a couple years back (but of course i didn't mention this to him). But the funniest thing was when he mentioned that my behavior (wtf) could lead in troubles with his relationship (double wtf). If he's afraid he'll lose a dumb bitch because of me, i wonder what will happen when he finds a girl with attitude. Chances are i'm gonna LMAO.

Last year me and my friend John were talking. I said that at 15, we were sitting in the hood having a beer. At 20... we're sitting in the hood having a beer. If at 25 we're going to be doing the same, we have a problem. But i don't see it as a problem anymore. We'll still be in the hood having a beer at age 25, and there will be nothing wrong with that.

When everybody's going backwards, at least i can be proud that i'm standing still. (tm)

[mockingbird]

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Your dad sounds like a good guy. Remember that Ceacescu and the communists strategy was to seperate the family by destroying the male figure. They tried to accomplish this with limited success via a women's "liberation" movement. The result in America so far has become something like this:



What can I tell you? Get money, then worry about women. and make sure she doesn't take your money.

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

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What can I tell you? Get money, then worry about women. and make sure she doesn't take your money.

Well that's the plan. Come to think of it, i heard David (this friend i mentioned above) saying we need to make $$ coz he can't just keep his girl home all the time. If i hear him again, i'm going to specify - i'm fine - you have to get money. He is the one who wants to make money from music, and still he is the one who doesn't make efforts to sell the beats or attract people looking to record some vocals.

[kaboom]

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Yeah, ever since these little 'weeemin' got their big break from the 'liberation' (dominatrix) movement, IT'S ALL BASS ACKWARDS!

If she had any brains at all, she'd speak up, just like the commie movement taught her to. In this case, she'd speak up to her bf about about letting that 'uN1Qu3' guy do what work the shitty bitty laptop needed and paying him FAIRLY.

None of this "We want you to look at this, but we won't tell you that we won't pay until AFTER you've wasted your time on it."

That's like someone who brings a craptop to me because 'the internet stopped working.' Really? The whole fucking internet 'stopped?' And you want me to set up your lappy's wireless? HOW the hell can I do that when YOUR router is at YOUR house? IT'S NOT THE ROUTER! You just installed 'something' a half hour ago that broke your TCP/IP stack.

Then 'why is it so slow?' Let's see, idiot exploiter has 5 'toolbars' (backdoors), 8 'gamez' downloads all the same size (MORE backdoors/rootkits), 75 processes and 15 systray apps on a system with 256MB, mcafee(worthless), aoHELL, muvee 'player', all manner of frytunes, etc, etc. RAM maxed out, 350MB+ into the swap file.

I'd say, "You really shouldn't be using internet explorer so casually. Use something else instead." "But I like how it displays pages!"

I'd go on about killing stuff in msconfig, MANUALLY REMOVING others if need be. My all time favorite is back up, format, reinstall. The best fix when you have geniuses that think a 64KB fake result in limewire is a 'song'. No, fool. It's a cute little rooter that just happens to be generated with the same name as you typed in. But 64KB is smaller than 5.5MB, and the name is the same as the REAL song, so it MUST be the same. If it's a song, asshole, how come svchost.exe has a different checksum after you 'listened' to it? A weakness in wmp perhaps?

When I get done, it's, "You're expensive."

Hey, man- don't let this bother ya. There will always be those 'special' cases. Just remember that YOU are the one with the smarts, otherwise they wouldn't even ask you. Forget these goofballs- next week or month, you'll have something challenging and worthwhile that'll turn out good. The feeling of satisfaction will be all yours to appreciate. Maybe an HP craptop that's not too far gone for your GPU shimming trick to give you a nice surprise.

Don't let 'em bring ya down. You'll be lolzing when that thing finally burns up.
-Paul

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

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The whole fucking internet 'stopped?' And you want me to set up your lappy's wireless? HOW the hell can I do that when YOUR router is at YOUR house?

Good one. Like David which a few days ago brought me his sister's phone "stopped charging could be the jack" but forgot to bring THE CHARGER. Um, this isn't a cellphone accessories store - I DON'T HAVE A LG CHARGER!!

But nah they ain't bringing me down, no worries. Actually it's quite amusing - when he asked me to call his girl and apologize, he explicitly mentioned - "do only that". Like he was afraid i'd steal his girl... Which i wouldn't have done, but i would have told her a few nasties that he'd have a hard time clearing.

Btw, today i met some new faces at uni (well, new faces to me - a different group than i usually hang out in, from this group i only knew one guy), and dropped into the chat at just the right time. So we laughed with the girls the whole break while everybody was giving us looks "hey you're talking with the girls". And we were like "well, if you don't like them... we do."

I dunno why but most people are so stuck up at uni. Girls included. There's the attention whores, there's a few that study and think of most of us guys as a negative influence, there's the secretive ones that keep all talk in a little group, and there's... not much else. There's that one girl that keeps giving me looks... but it happens that she's at uni with her mom. Some people didn't go to uni when they should have been, and now hope for better wages made them to. Oh well.

It now comes to my attention that my topic title fits for many things and people. You sometimes wonder who made the fools you see...