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  • Andreasbest
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    • Aug 2014
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    • Hellas ( Greece )

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    Lenovo T490s completely dead

    Hello!
    I received a fantastic T490s that is completely dead, after i removed the back cover i noticed a totally fried cap (attachement) pic, i remove it and cleaned the pcb, seems undamaged, although the nearby caps are shorted, PU1001 looks physically undamaged.
    Any advice please?
    Thank you in advance!

    Scehmatics, boardview and damage picture in attachement.
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  • Andreasbest
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    • Aug 2014
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    #2
    Re: Lenovo T490s completely dead

    Also find fried PR0212.
    The fried cap was PC1002.
    The shorted caps are PC1004 and PC1005
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    Last edited by Andreasbest; 02-21-2023, 05:20 PM.

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    • reformatt
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      • Feb 2020
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      #3
      Re: Lenovo T490s completely dead

      VSYS15 pretty much goes everywhere. You need to use 1V voltage injection and thermal camera. Feeds all DRMOS IC's for the CPU/GPU so you need to be pretty careful not to exceed a volt if any of them are shorted.

      PR0212 is a current sense resistor for the battery. Can't believe that is burnt up when it is rated at 1W and 10 milliohms.

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      • Andreasbest
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        #4
        Re: Lenovo T490s completely dead

        I thought about voltage injection too.
        Where do you want to solder+ and where -?

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        • Andreasbest
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          #5
          Re: Lenovo T490s completely dead

          I plan to inject 1v and 1a at two pins of the burned cap.
          Is this correct?
          Please someone respond.

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          • rediii
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            • Mar 2018
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            #6
            Re: Lenovo T490s completely dead

            Originally posted by Andreasbest
            I plan to inject 1v and 1a at two pins of the burned cap.
            Is this correct?
            Please someone respond.
            you can inject the voltage anywhere on the shorted rail. - on ground (screw holes do have a big ground layer for example). + side on vsys side on any cap or coil for example. inject more amps, start with 2.5 a and check if you can locate the shorted component with ipa or thermal cam. did you check the mosfets with diode measurements?
            Last edited by rediii; 02-24-2023, 04:05 AM.

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            • Andreasbest
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              Re: Lenovo T490s completely dead

              I only checked the mosfets next to PR0212, no short with GND.
              I plan to inject 1v and 1a and try with thermal camera but if you want to check some mosfets first then t will be my pleasure.

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              • rediii
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                • Mar 2018
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                #8
                Re: Lenovo T490s completely dead

                Originally posted by Andreasbest
                I only checked the mosfets next to PR0212, no short with GND.
                I plan to inject 1v and 1a and try with thermal camera but if you want to check some mosfets first then t will be my pleasure.
                ok, so you do have a thermal cam, that's good. go for the injection, rise the amps until you can locate the shorted area(s)

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                • Andreasbest
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                  #9
                  Re: Lenovo T490s completely dead

                  I don't see anything heat up with 1v 1A
                  Should i increase or it's dangerous for CPU?

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                  • Andreasbest
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                    #10
                    Re: Lenovo T490s completely dead

                    I proceed with 1V 2A and found PC1201 shorted.
                    Replaced them both but i can't find replacement for PR0212.
                    Any suggestions?

                    Also now the shortcircuit is gone, should i check any mosfet or anything else or we are fine?

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                    • rediii
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                      • Mar 2018
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                      #11
                      Re: Lenovo T490s completely dead

                      Originally posted by Andreasbest
                      I proceed with 1V 2A and found PC1201 shorted.
                      Replaced them both but i can't find replacement for PR0212.
                      Any suggestions?

                      Also now the shortcircuit is gone, should i check any mosfet or anything else or we are fine?
                      PR0212 is bad? are you sure, measure resistance between both ends and tell us the measurement (no power/no battery). do the same with the mosfets (PQ0203, PQ0202: gate <-> source <-> drain <-> gate) nearby, but in most cases they should be fine. hopefully you fixed it

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                      • Andreasbest
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                        #12
                        Re: Lenovo T490s completely dead

                        One end 150kΩ, the other 0.8ΜΩ.

                        Yes PR0212 was totally fried, check attachment above.

                        What can i do to replace PR0212, can't find anywhere 1w 10mΩ SMD resistance.
                        Last edited by Andreasbest; 03-01-2023, 04:28 PM.

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                        • rediii
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                          • Mar 2018
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                          #13
                          Re: Lenovo T490s completely dead

                          Originally posted by Andreasbest
                          One end 150kΩ, the other 0.8ΜΩ.

                          Yes PR0212 was totally fried, check attachment above.

                          What can i do to replace PR0212, can't find anywhere 1w 10mΩ SMD resistance.
                          if you want to do it very dodgy do a solder bridge. no spare boards with this resistor? it's the same on every laptop (near dc in or battery).

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                          • Andreasbest
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                            #14
                            Re: Lenovo T490s completely dead

                            Originally posted by rediii
                            if you want to do it very dodgy do a solder bridge. no spare boards with this resistor? it's the same on every laptop (near dc in or battery).
                            I have mainboards from Dell E6540, Dell E6430, Dell Precision M4800 and from Dell Precision 7510
                            I can't find any 1W resistor in them, can you please check on their schematics and point me?

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                            • SMDFlea
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                              • Jan 2018
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                              #15
                              Re: Lenovo T490s completely dead

                              Originally posted by Andreasbest
                              I have mainboards from Dell E6540, Dell E6430, Dell Precision M4800 and from Dell Precision 7510
                              I can't find any 1W resistor in them, can you please check on their schematics and point me?
                              Search for some at digikey or other electronics distributor in your country

                              1W 0.01 1% 1206

                              https://www.digikey.gr/en/products/f...FJthQDYQBdAXyA
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                              • Andreasbest
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                                #16
                                Re: Lenovo T490s completely dead

                                I already made a search for it in Greece, haven't found anything.
                                Order is too expensive for 1 piece, so perhaps the donor boards is the best solution.
                                Do you know if it's any available on these??

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                                • Andreasbest
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Lenovo T490s completely dead

                                  Do you want to upload schematics for the above models to have a look?

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                                  • SMDFlea
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Lenovo T490s completely dead

                                    Originally posted by Andreasbest
                                    Do you want to upload schematics for the above models to have a look?
                                    If they`re already posted in the forum just link to them. If you have one that isn`t on the forum you can bet there`s a request thread for it, post your schematic there then link to it. There aren`t that many 1206 sized parts on boards now, so search 1206. If all the schematics are compal they sometimes use the same naming convention such as 0.01_1206_1%
                                    Last edited by SMDFlea; 03-03-2023, 09:01 AM.
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                                    • Andreasbest
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                                      Re: Lenovo T490s completely dead

                                      Here are all the schematics of donor boards i have available, please help me found one.

                                      So far i see:
                                      In E6540 PR701 and PR716
                                      In E6430 PR1326
                                      In M4800 PR723
                                      In 7510 PR723

                                      LA-C541P https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...44&postcount=1
                                      LA-9771P https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...51&postcount=2
                                      LA-7782P https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...68&postcount=2
                                      LA-9411P https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...39&postcount=9

                                      What do you think?
                                      Last edited by SMDFlea; 03-03-2023, 03:14 PM.

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                                      • Andreasbest
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                                        Re: Lenovo T490s completely dead

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