Live! IR Drive won't work.

[pentium]

Ever since I got my system setup I have never got the Live! drive IR to work with my Live! 5.1 card. I have the ribbon cable connected between the components and the drive has power but nothing on it works. When I got the system I had to manually download the drivers for the card but I don't know about the drive. I assumed it would work as soon as the sound card had it's drivers. Does the Live! Drive IR need it's own drivers? I really want to hook my headset up to the front and not have to crawl round back of the system.

[kikkoman]

Re: Live! IR Drive won't work.

Have you checked the optical SPDIF out? It should light up if the drive has power, even if the connection to the SB is faulty.
Make sure you have everything connented properly (pin1 to pin1).
Do you use the standard Creative drivers? There should be a LineIn2/Mic2 channel in the Creative mixer, that's how you see if the drive is connected and recognized.

[pentium]

Re: Live! IR Drive won't work.

Yep. I am getting light from the Optical output.

Do you use the standard Creative drivers? There should be a LineIn2/Mic2 channel in the Creative mixer, that's how you see if the drive is connected and recognized.

I assume I used the regular drivers. I also don't see any controls for LineIn2 or Mic2.

[kikkoman]

Re: Live! IR Drive won't work.

This is one of the older 10k1-based cards, right? Do you have the exact ID (CTxxxx)?
DOuble-check that goddamn ribbon cable.
In case you use your card semi-professionally, you should check the kX-drivers. They're much more versatile... basically you have control over everything. you can re-route every single channel, (even ASIO), loop in any effect, mixer,...
LiveDrives are supported, too.
I can remember that mine sometimes wouldn't work properly with the Creative drivers, either.
My current setup is one Audigy2ZS + SBLive! for the LiveDrive (it doesn't work with the Audigy line). Works like a charm.

At first it might be a bit confusing, though:




It'll take you a few hours for the basics, but the rest'll be self-explaining.

[pentium]

Re: Live! IR Drive won't work.

In that case you will have to wait until my ram arrives in the mail.
It takes forever to disconnect everything and pull the bloody thing out. After the ram is installed and you get your info I will be closing the case up and it won't be opened again until a piece of hardware fails.

[pentium]

Re: Live! IR Drive won't work.

Okay the card model is SB0060 and the model of the drive is SB0010D

Since I lack and documents I just guessed where the ribbon cable would plug in.
I plugged into the pins marked "AUD_EXT(To SB LIVE!CARD)

Ther was a second socket the same size marked "Digital I/O Card" as well as another marked "AUD_EXT_2", "DIGITAL DIN" which were different sizes and there was one jumper block I did not dare touch.

[pentium]

Re: Live! IR Drive won't work.

I did some more searching and found this.
http://www.digit-life.com/articles/s...m51/index.html
I think that referring to a manual would be nice but I can't find one in PDF form anywhere.

[Logistics]

Re: Live! IR Drive won't work.

What is the CT# on the card? Not all versions of the card could simply be connected to a Live! Drive and just go. It was enabled or disabled by hardware configurations on the card. IIRC, this is something which is easily gotten around with the kX Project drivers, but otherwise you have to do some soldering to enable it due to CLI's skull-duggery keeping you from using the full functionality of your Live! card.


Edit: Here ya go!

http://web.telia.com/~u91003452/live...ifications.htm

[kikkoman]

Re: Live! IR Drive won't work.

nah... all 10k1 based cards should work out of the box with the LiveDrive (as long as they have the connector), if I remember correctly (so far, my LiveDrive II worked with CT4760, CT4830 and CT4870).
the Audigy series are a different thing though as they expect 24bit I/O, you have to solder a completely different ribbon cable and at least one ADC for Mic/LineIn2 has to be changed on the Drive.

EDIT: didn't see your link. i thought the value editions didn't have the full connectors (either SPDIF only or none at all).
hm...re-read it....this is for using a MOC with E-mu drivers on a Creative card. pin 23 and 24 should be set to high by the LD itself, anyway (which is not the case with the MOC).

SO... i think it should work without soldering at all as the SB0060 is a normal Live!5.1 Digital (right?)... I rather guess it's got something to do with a bad connection and/or the drivers.

[pentium]

Re: Live! IR Drive won't work.

What is the CT# on the card?

There is none.
It just has an SB#.

you have to do some soldering to enable it due to CLI's skull-duggery keeping you from using the full functionality of your Live! card.

So the ribbon cable is t fault?

SO... i think it should work without soldering at all as the SB0060 is a normal Live!5.1 Digital (right?)... I rather guess it's got something to do with a bad connection and/or the drivers.

I'm totally lost.

[Logistics]

Re: Live! IR Drive won't work.

On that link I posted they keep talking about the Edrive; what is the Edrive?

[pentium]

Re: Live! IR Drive won't work.

If I remember my E drive is a USB DVD-rw drive.
I can't test anything yet, that bloody ram is still in the mail.

[kikkoman]

Re: Live! IR Drive won't work.

The Edrive was the breakout box for the APS. Basically, it's the same thing as a LiveDrive.



See, in order to enable the Drive driver-wise, the soundblaster's GPI0 and GPI1 have to be connected. A normal LiveDrive does that, anyway (except there's something wrong with the cable). The Edrive doesn't, that's why you have to do it by hand.

[pentium]

Re: Live! IR Drive won't work.

I still don't get to what you are hinting to.
Are you attempting to tell me that I need to do some work on that ribbon cable or what? It's not making anything less confusing for me by mentioning an entirely different sound card.

[kikkoman]

Re: Live! IR Drive won't work.

Right now I'm not hinting to anything.
I'm just saying that you wont need to screw around with that ribbon cable (assuming that it's where it should be), because the procedure described in Logistic's link is for connecting an Edrive to a soundblaster (which is obviously not the case here).

The only hint I can give you at the moment is check, double-, triple-check that cable. If it's not too much work, try a different one (you'll need to sacrifice an old SCSI cable). OR try the kX drivers, but of course that can't guarantee anything. (and it doesn't work for 64bit XP/vista).

[pentium]

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I'm free tonight.

Why not test every conductor in that ribbon cable to see if the problem is dthe cable?

[pentium]

Re: Live! IR Drive won't work.

BuMP

It looks like the reason it won't work is because Creative did the sneaky task of making a regular ribbon cable proprietary. That ribbon cable is not directly wired and requires modifications apparently so I can get the drive to work.
After some work I was able to find the pinout for the sound card however I was still unable to find the pinout for the Live! Drive so in order for me to rewire the ribbon cable I have, I need to find the pinout for the SB0010D Live! Drive IR breakout panel and I should be able to carry on from there.
Anyone know where THAT pinout can be found?