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  • Shocker
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    I found this while I was waiting. Hope you'll find it useful. Once you've installed it, it functions almost as if it was integral to Windows.

    By the way: I understand if you don't have the HDD space necessary to back up all your CDs and DVDs. But if you have it, you really should use it. I'll bet you $1000 that a TON of hard drive space goes to waste these days.

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  • Agent24
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    There is only one thing to remember: There is no substitute for a proper backup system.

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  • mariushm
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    You didn't have flash memory in 1982, when the compact disc (CD) was invented. You didn't even have 3.5" floppy disks until 1984, when IBM came up with 720 KB floppies in that format.

    So you only had floppy drives, tape drives and hard disks that were going into the 5.25" slots because 3.5" drives only appeared in 1988 when Connor made the first.

    CDs were very good and reasonably protected. Remember, they were supposed to be played at 1x which is 150 rpm, and the imprints in the chemical layer were much more pronounced than nowadays so the devices were able to read the data on them even with quite a few scratches.

    Much later as burning speed went up, different chemical compositions were used and the "grooves" made by the writers were less pronounced and more prone for read errors. Fast read speed also made it worse as the plastic expands with the high speed, but the drives themselves got better error correction and so everything kept up.

    ps. Oh... even the CD-R standard was added to the CD standard only in 1988. So you should probably look up how much did a 3.5" drive cost in 1988 and see how well it would have worked for you to use hard drives to move data around.
    Last edited by mariushm; 04-26-2012, 04:45 PM.

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  • Shocker
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    If you don't like them, you have tapes.
    No, I don't - tapes have poor fidelity, wear out, are unusable for anything demanding of random access and are incredibly vulnerable to magnets.

    Oh, I'm sorry, you want big storage AND fast random access?
    That's what we have flash and HDDs for.

    Also, they wanted to be very easy to explain to old people and noobs how they work... imagine how you would explain your grandmother how to use them if they were cartridges.
    Make the protector transparent and it wouldn't be that hard would it???

    Hmm.. One good whack with a sledgehammer and both will be equally toast.
    So would YOU, if you got hit...

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  • Agent24
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    Originally posted by Shocker
    Yes, I know hard drives fail. But CDs are 1,000,000 times easier to destroy.
    Hmm.. One good whack with a sledgehammer and both will be equally toast.

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  • mariushm
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    If you don't like them, you have tapes.

    Oh, I'm sorry, you want big storage AND fast random access? Then live with it.

    ps.

    Initially the discs were meant as replacement for regular discs, the ones where a head physically touches the grooves and forms sound due to the vibrations in the crystal, and cassette tapes. Computers already had 1-4 GB tapes and tape drives.
    There were ideas thrown around to encase the disc in a cartridge but they gave that up to make things cheaper to manufacture (sega and sony also gave up on cartridges soon after and went with cd like formats). Also, they wanted to be very easy to explain to old people and noobs how they work... imagine how you would explain your grandmother how to use them if they were cartridges.
    Last edited by mariushm; 04-26-2012, 03:52 PM.

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  • Shocker
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    Originally posted by dumpystig
    You can always encase it yourself within a jewel-box or cover...
    But you have to take it OUT of the case to use it. Plus, jewel cases crack if you step on them.

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  • ratdude747
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    Well, when CDs came your other choice was a 1ft stack of floppies...

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  • dumpystig
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    You can always encase it yourself within a jewel-box or cover...

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  • Shocker
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    CDs make me sick

    LOL...who thought making a high-precision optical device out of easily scratched polycarbonate and then not encasing it was a good idea???

    Don't forget that there's only a neglegibly thin layer between the outside world and the data on traditional CDs.

    And to top it off, blank optical media seems to be another thing where it's harder and harder to get good quality. I even remember seeing visible defects on TDK branded CD-Rs after like 2-3 days. FAIL. And I thought TDK was meant to be a good brand...

    Anyway, here's my advice: ALWAYS back up optical discs of everything, unless it's a non-PC-readable format. DON'T use CD-Rs for personal data unless you have to for compatibility. Right???

    Yes, I know hard drives fail. But CDs are 1,000,000 times easier to destroy.

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