bad surface mount capacitors in vintage video gear?

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  • jack black
    Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 37

    #1

    bad surface mount capacitors in vintage video gear?

    i recently frequent a video forum that deals with video capture, editing, etc.
    the admins/mods on that forum preach that old analog video gear has caps worn out from usage and one needs to replace ALL CAPS to fix the malfunctioning gear.

    it's said that especially high end panasonic s-VHS VCRs need that treatment and the surface mount capacitors are the worst and first to fail. supposedly panasonic doesn't use their own quality components in their flagship equipment, but sources it from cheap suppliers.

    i think this is a total BS and scam and they lie to steer people to their cronies who recondition the old video gear for only $200-$300.

    am i right or wrong?
  • jack black
    Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 37

    #2
    Re: bad surface mount capacitors in vintage video gear?

    this info is from the reconditioning people: http://www.tgrantphoto.com/sales/ind...ement-smd-caps

    does it make sense?

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    • R_J
      Badcaps Legend
      • Jun 2012
      • 9551
      • Canada

      #3
      Re: bad surface mount capacitors in vintage video gear?

      I've worked on a few of these Pansonic vcr's and the surface mount elec. caps do go bad, but I used a scope to track down the defective ones and only replaced them. If I was to start replacing all the caps that would end up costing way more than the unit was worth.
      I always used sm caps if I had them but also used regular radial caps with the leads short to batch the sm ones. How much F'n R.F. are you going to pick up or radiate on those leads. NONE.
      By the way how much are they charging for this???
      Last edited by R_J; 08-19-2015, 09:49 PM.

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      • jack black
        Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 37

        #4
        Re: bad surface mount capacitors in vintage video gear?

        Originally posted by R_J
        By the way how much are they charging for this???
        Panasonic AG1980 - Full Repair Service
        Replace Bad Caps + New caps in color board
        Price: $325.00

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        • stj
          Great Sage 齊天大聖
          • Dec 2009
          • 31066
          • Albion

          #5
          Re: bad surface mount capacitors in vintage video gear?

          all smd electrolytics are shit - they used them because they are small and cheaper than tantalum.

          if your digging into the past, go lookup the sony camcorder nightmare!

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          • jack black
            Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 37

            #6
            Re: bad surface mount capacitors in vintage video gear?

            Originally posted by stj
            all smd electrolytics are shit - they used them because they are small and cheaper than tantalum.

            if your digging into the past, go lookup the sony camcorder nightmare!
            thanks, i didn't know about the SMD electrolytics issues. personally i had only issues with larger electrolytics in PS or in PC MB.

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            • stj
              Great Sage 齊天大聖
              • Dec 2009
              • 31066
              • Albion

              #7
              Re: bad surface mount capacitors in vintage video gear?

              you should see the mess inside untouched sega gamegear handhelds!
              those use the first ever smd electrolytics that consist of tiny wire ended caps fitted into rectangular plastic frames!

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              • Wester547
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                • Nov 2011
                • 1268
                • USA.

                #8
                Re: bad surface mount capacitors in vintage video gear?

                Originally posted by stj
                if your digging into the past, go lookup the sony camcorder nightmare!
                https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...96&postcount=4

                Methinks Lelon was the one who supplied Sony with crappy SMD electrolytics.

                Why do you think all SMD electrolytics are no good? Because they have a nasty habit of leaking from the bottom?

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                • jack black
                  Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 37

                  #9
                  Re: bad surface mount capacitors in vintage video gear?

                  i googled some more and found this: http://console5.com/wiki/Converting_...ded_Capacitors

                  Last edited by jack black; 08-20-2015, 04:59 PM.

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