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  • geeforce
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2017
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    #1

    2012 Samsung plasma, top half is black pn51e550df1

    Hello bad cap'rs!!

    Newly acquired project tv... pn51e550df1.

    Starts up fine, regular heartbeat. But top half of tv is black, you can slightly notice three varied shades of black for the top. Tried testing the IC on buffer for shorts on top, no luck.

    I'm thinking it's maybe the y sustain board. Can I test the output to the buffers or something? The top pin for the buffer seems to have continuity between all pins which seems incorrect.

    Anyone have any thoughts? Cheers!!
  • jjanssen7
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Nov 2012
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    #2
    Re: 2012 Samsung plasma, top half is black pn51e550df1

    Sounds like an upper buffer to me.

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    • chrismurphy
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      • May 2014
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      #3
      Re: 2012 Samsung plasma, top half is black pn51e550df1

      replace upper buffer
      check ysc on top buffer

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      • geeforce
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        #4
        Re: 2012 Samsung plasma, top half is black pn51e550df1

        Just took these quick videos... one just shows whats going on (half black screen), the other is me using a continuity tester on part of the buffer board... seems maybe failed?

        Took some pics of things that said ysc - not sure what to test, there is a ysc and ysc con coming from the mainboard ribbon cable and then a resistor or something attached to a heatsink later on in the board.

        https://youtu.be/myqhgCDyQVY

        https://youtu.be/SCT67aFPFSQ
        Last edited by geeforce; 07-30-2018, 12:09 AM.

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        • geeforce
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          #5
          Re: 2012 Samsung plasma, top half is black pn51e550df1

          Originally posted by chrismurphy
          replace upper buffer
          check ysc on top buffer
          Here's some pics...?
          Attached Files

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          • geeforce
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            • Oct 2017
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            #6
            Re: 2012 Samsung plasma, top half is black pn51e550df1

            Originally posted by jjanssen7
            Sounds like an upper buffer to me.
            Do you know any local places to try for parts? Or pretty much ebay is best bet?

            Cheers!

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            • jjanssen7
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              • Nov 2012
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              #7
              Re: 2012 Samsung plasma, top half is black pn51e550df1

              I can look and see if i have one... I'm only in chilliwack...

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              • geeforce
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                • Oct 2017
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                #8
                Re: 2012 Samsung plasma, top half is black pn51e550df1

                Originally posted by jjanssen7
                I can look and see if i have one... I'm only in chilliwack...
                For sure, let me know! Waiting to hear back about a few on eBay yet...

                LJ92-01871A is the buffer board.

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                • chrismurphy
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                  #9
                  Re: 2012 Samsung plasma, top half is black pn51e550df1

                  your testing on the buffer for shorts is wrong

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                  • chrismurphy
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                    #10
                    Re: 2012 Samsung plasma, top half is black pn51e550df1

                    check all the group of 470 ohm resistors on your top buffer

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                    • geeforce
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                      #11
                      Re: 2012 Samsung plasma, top half is black pn51e550df1

                      Originally posted by chrismurphy
                      check all the group of 470 ohm resistors on your top buffer
                      Ok! Should I be testing for a short? I'm super novice... I see the 470 chips though.

                      I did test the buffer chips by putting black to the svc_outl spot, then ran the red down both sides of the ribbon socket thing. No shorts were found there.

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                      • geeforce
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                        #12
                        Re: 2012 Samsung plasma, top half is black pn51e550df1

                        Well, I've got a y drive board on order... Wondering if I should have picked up the y main also to cover my bases... Wish me luck.

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                        • Andrew F. Ali
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                          • Jan 2014
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                          #13
                          Re: 2012 Samsung plasma, top half is black pn51e550df1

                          Go for the Y-Driver Bd. first. Though it has been said in some quarters to replace the Y-Main and Y-Driver Bds together.

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                          • geeforce
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                            Re: 2012 Samsung plasma, top half is black pn51e550df1

                            Some more pics...

                            It's weird that everything seems shorted on the plug highlighted in red. Not sure what that means exactly, does that mean the short extends to the y sustain also?
                            Attached Files

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                            • Andrew F. Ali
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                              #15
                              Re: 2012 Samsung plasma, top half is black pn51e550df1

                              Yes...

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                              • attainteddragon
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                                #16
                                Re: 2012 Samsung plasma, top half is black pn51e550df1

                                that entire connector appears to be ground plane, that is why it appears shorted.
                                WHY CAN'T PHILIPS USE PHILLIPS HEAD SCREWS?

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                                • Andrew F. Ali
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                                  #17
                                  Re: 2012 Samsung plasma, top half is black pn51e550df1

                                  Originally posted by attainteddragon
                                  that entire connector appears to be ground plane, that is why it appears shorted.
                                  Thanks. I didn't see that. Grateful.

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                                  • geeforce
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                                    #18
                                    Re: 2012 Samsung plasma, top half is black pn51e550df1

                                    Originally posted by attainteddragon
                                    that entire connector appears to be ground plane, that is why it appears shorted.


                                    Need to Google that lol

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                                    • attainteddragon
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                                      #19
                                      Re: 2012 Samsung plasma, top half is black pn51e550df1

                                      first thing that i think that you need to do is remove the upper buffer board completely from the chassis.
                                      in diode mode, place your red probe on that connector that you have just discussed, then rake your black probe down the pins that where the panel plugs into the buffer.
                                      a beep is bad.
                                      once you know which chips on the buffer are bad, you will be able to test the new one prior to installation.

                                      it seemed to me that you were unsure of how to test them properly. let us know how you go.
                                      WHY CAN'T PHILIPS USE PHILLIPS HEAD SCREWS?

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                                      • geeforce
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                                        #20
                                        Re: 2012 Samsung plasma, top half is black pn51e550df1

                                        Yes, I've done the test a few times now. Didn't realize the top connection was just ground essentially. There are no beeps... Makes me worried the fault is in sustain board.

                                        Attaching some more pics of the sustain board, anything I should check before I plug a new y drive board in?
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                                        Last edited by geeforce; 08-04-2018, 05:14 PM.

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