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  • sordids999
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    • May 2013
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    #1

    SAMSUNG PS43E450 totally dead

    hi guys

    checking this tv over on first inspection no voltages at all so changed the mainboard which is BN41-01785A but the only one i have is actually the same board but with the ethernet connection version plus the power button board is the wrong connection to the original main board,but upon testing the board i have all voltages now VS/VA/VSC but the screen will not turn on still

    so could i test the tcon for test patterns ?
    i have added a picture of the tcon
  • tw2005
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    • Oct 2011
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    #2
    Re: SAMSUNG PS43E450 totally dead

    well, that's a rev 1.3 and if you look at the Sj rev 1.2 you can see the jumpers were above the v-togg but gone on yours and layout is different . i can't work it out comparing the 2 boards I'm afraid

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    • sordids999
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      #3
      Re: SAMSUNG PS43E450 totally dead

      ok so heres where i am so far :

      changed the following: (all from a previous tv i stripped down)
      power supply
      ysus
      xbuffer
      plus also tested the buffer board for shorts all fine
      using the old mainboard

      VA,VS,VSC all good
      control boards blinks every second but the tv screen will quickly flash upon turning on but still no picture then restart after about 5 seconds
      Last edited by sordids999; 05-12-2015, 08:33 AM.

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      • tom66
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        • Apr 2011
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        #4
        Re: SAMSUNG PS43E450 totally dead

        Jumper holes 3,4 for test pattern on bottom 2x2 right holes.
        You will also need to disconnect ribbon cable.
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        • sordids999
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          #5
          Re: SAMSUNG PS43E450 totally dead

          i tried that earlier tom but no luck

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          • tom66
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            • Apr 2011
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            #6
            Re: SAMSUNG PS43E450 totally dead

            Did you disconnect LVDS? (I meant LVDS last time, not ribbon cable...)
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            • sordids999
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              • May 2013
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              #7
              Re: SAMSUNG PS43E450 totally dead

              Yes Tom disconnected the lvds cable from the control board to the main board but the TV done nothing but 'll try again in the morning then report back

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              • tom66
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                Ok, and check if the LED blinks once every 5-7 seconds or once a second.
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                • sordids999
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                  #9
                  Re: SAMSUNG PS43E450 totally dead

                  With the main connected it blinks once a second then after about 5 secs the TV restarts itself

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                  • tom66
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                    • Apr 2011
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                    #10
                    Re: SAMSUNG PS43E450 totally dead

                    Is that the LED on the control board?
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                    • sordids999
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                      #11
                      Re: SAMSUNG PS43E450 totally dead

                      Yes

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                      • sordids999
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                        #12
                        Re: SAMSUNG PS43E450 totally dead

                        Hi tom
                        Tried again this time I have a thin line going across the screen which changes colours but that's it when trying test patterns

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                        • tom66
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                          #13
                          Re: SAMSUNG PS43E450 totally dead

                          Originally posted by sordids999
                          Hi tom
                          Tried again this time I have a thin line going across the screen which changes colours but that's it when trying test patterns
                          Top to bottom, or left to right?
                          In dark room, does the screen glow slightly?
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                          • sordids999
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                            Re: SAMSUNG PS43E450 totally dead

                            left to right tom but just one single line near the top of the tv i did briefly have more ealrier but cant seem to get it again to do this again
                            as for a dark room ill have to try it later

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                            • tom66
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                              #15
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                              That could be a bad buffer IC. Is the panel free of cracks right on the edge?
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                              • sordids999
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                                #16
                                Re: SAMSUNG PS43E450 totally dead

                                hi tom
                                no cracks in the screen plus i still cant find any shorts in the buffer board

                                also found 4 shorted IGBTs - RJP30H1 on the old x-main so replaced with a replacement x-main but tv still keeps restarting in a loop mode with the same line going left to right in test pattern mode
                                Last edited by sordids999; 05-14-2015, 12:11 AM.

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                                • tom66
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                                  #17
                                  Re: SAMSUNG PS43E450 totally dead

                                  Have you tried swapping the Y-main? When you are testing for shorts what pins are you using? Have you checked Vsch across buffer boards (not VSC) if unsure post a picture of the Y-buffer/Y-main connectors.
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                                  • tom66
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                                    #18
                                    Re: SAMSUNG PS43E450 totally dead

                                    May be worth eliminating the main board by disconnecting the power connector and jumping PS-ON.
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                                    • sordids999
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                                      #19
                                      Re: SAMSUNG PS43E450 totally dead

                                      heres a picture of the buffers tom and the legend on the psu,i have also changed the ymain along with the xmain but before i couldnt get the tv to boot up until i changed the xmain

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                                      • tom66
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                                        #20
                                        Re: SAMSUNG PS43E450 totally dead

                                        Ok use the first pin of the top most connector as your test point ground, then run red probe along pin connectors.
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