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  • Behemot
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2009
    • 4845
    • CZ

    #1

    Samsung LE37B650, gamma?

    Got this one with T370HW02 TCon with AS15-HF and ordinary picture brightness problem. From 14 pins 1-3 are at ~15,5 V, than it drops to 11 V and decreases normaly. I guess pins 2-3 are faulty and should be lower, right?
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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #2
    Re: Samsung LE37B650, gamma?

    You should check gamma voltage points not chip directly. A picture of the fault would also help.
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    • Behemot
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      • Dec 2009
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      #3
      Re: Samsung LE37B650, gamma?

      Sure, how do you think I'd measure those tiny leads? It looks OK optically.

      Image at http://www.wisiny.com/media/catalog/...0HW02%20VE.jpg, measured VG1-VG22.
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      • Alastair E
        Chief Womble
        • Mar 2013
        • 1963
        • U.K.

        #4
        Re: Samsung LE37B650, gamma?

        Err--I Think Tom meant a Picture of the set's Picture--Illustrating the Fault, not a pic of the T-Con!
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        How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #5
          Re: Samsung LE37B650, gamma?

          Could you share full voltage set? The monotonicity requirement is only a basic test. The voltages should also be symmetric about the mid point.
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          • Behemot
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            • Dec 2009
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            #6
            Re: Samsung LE37B650, gamma?

            Oh, stupid me Here you go. Quite a milky one, eh?

            It goes like (rounded, I don't remember so many numbers)

            15
            15
            15
            11
            13
            8
            8
            7
            7
            5
            4
            2,5
            0,4
            0,3

            Seems that also no. 5 is bad.
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            • Alastair E
              Chief Womble
              • Mar 2013
              • 1963
              • U.K.

              #7
              Re: Samsung LE37B650, gamma?

              OOoh--That is Horrible!

              As Tom suggests--the Voltage-readings should give some indication of the fault...
              TELEFIX

              How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
              http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
              PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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              • Behemot
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                • Dec 2009
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                #8
                Re: Samsung LE37B650, gamma?

                I am idiot, soldered wrong direction. Heard a spark, only LED was still on. OK, will try for second time, new chip, hopefully nothing else is bad…maybe even this one is OK but I am not taking the risk since the soldering is the worst on it

                Anyway, there was chip version with solder tab, I have full-plastic package only, will have to create some cooling for it or heat transfer to the metal cover, problem is it is at least a centimeter above the chip
                Last edited by Behemot; 02-19-2014, 05:35 AM.
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                • Behemot
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                  #9
                  Re: Samsung LE37B650, gamma?

                  Second try is a success

                  After like 20 minutes it was just slightly warm. Do you think I should place there just some small heatsink or I can leave it be as it is, without cooling?
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                  • tom66
                    EVs Rule
                    • Apr 2011
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                    #10
                    Re: Samsung LE37B650, gamma?

                    I would use a heatsink myself.
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                    • Foppel
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 62
                      • Germany

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung LE37B650, gamma?

                      Dear all,

                      thanks for this thread. I repaired my LE37B650T2P with the same problem. It was really hard to remove the old AS15-HF Chip. I tried with my rework station from two sides, but no way. Then i used a dremel tool to remove the chip. It worked for me. I removed two little pads from the board Then i used two little wires to connect it directly to the chip. I tested the tv and everything is working fine. I ordered a cooler for the raspberry pi to use it with the AS15.
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