Problem with Samsung ps43d490 PDP

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  • snipersquad100
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Nov 2013
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    #81
    Re: Problem with Samsung ps43d490 PDP

    Not sure what to expect but voltages are as follows:-
    Va = 0.3
    Vs = 10.2
    B5v = 5.2
    Vs con = 0
    Ps on = 0.17
    Vs on = 0
    A5v = 5.2
    B15 = 14.6
    I get the same readings in test mode with the pin connecter on pin 3 + 4 with ldvs cable disconnected as I do in normal mode.

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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #82
      Re: Problem with Samsung ps43d490 PDP

      Your problem looks like X- or Y-main short. Unplug both X- and Y-main and check the Vs, Va. Only need to check those two.
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      • snipersquad100
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        • Nov 2013
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        #83
        Re: Problem with Samsung ps43d490 PDP

        Vs and va are both 0v, that's in normal mode without the jumper and lvds connected.

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        • snipersquad100
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          • Nov 2013
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          #84
          Re: Problem with Samsung ps43d490 PDP

          with the two wires highlighted disconnected va=58v and VS=207v which is what is on the lable.
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          • snipersquad100
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            • Nov 2013
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            #85
            Re: Problem with Samsung ps43d490 PDP

            with just these 2 cables out va and vs are right. does that mean the control board is at fault?
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            • tom66
              EVs Rule
              • Apr 2011
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              #86
              Re: Problem with Samsung ps43d490 PDP

              For now, leave the white ribbon cables. Only concentrate on the cable between X- and Y-main, and between Y-main and power board. Isolate the X-main power cable. You should briefly (1~2secs) get Vs/Va. If not, plug in X-main again and repeat with Y-main power cable. You should briefly get Vs/Va.

              If you find the X-main to be failed, it is recommended to replace the Y-main at the same time, and vice versa.
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              • snipersquad100
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                • Nov 2013
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                #87
                Re: Problem with Samsung ps43d490 PDP

                Yes I briefly get va and vs on both boards.

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                • tom66
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                  #88
                  Re: Problem with Samsung ps43d490 PDP

                  Which situation gives you Vs/Va: When both are unplugged? When one is unplugged? When neither are unplugged?
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                  • snipersquad100
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                    • Nov 2013
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                    #89
                    Re: Problem with Samsung ps43d490 PDP

                    with x power cable out, y in.
                    and y to main board out, x power in.
                    I just try both now.
                    With all the cables in I briefly get 207v vs and 58v va.

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
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                      • UK

                      #90
                      Re: Problem with Samsung ps43d490 PDP

                      I'm very confused by what you are trying?
                      Do not touch any cables other than the GREY cables between power and Y-main, and X-main to Y-main for now.
                      Is there ANY combination which will cause Vs/Va to power up when GREY cables are isolated from the Y/X-main?
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                      • snipersquad100
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                        • Nov 2013
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                        #91
                        Re: Problem with Samsung ps43d490 PDP

                        lol im only pulling out gray cables.
                        If I pull out the gray cable on the x board I get 207v vs and 58v va briefly.
                        If I put that cable for x back in and pull out the gray cable between main and y I also get 207 vs and 58va briefly.
                        If I put that cable back in so no cables are out I still get 207v vs and 58v va briefly.

                        There are no combinations that will keep the vs and va on for a long time, unless I pull out the 2 ribbin cables on the control board which I said eairler.
                        sorry for the confusion.

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                        • snipersquad100
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                          #92
                          Re: Problem with Samsung ps43d490 PDP

                          I see why you were confused now, I didn't put in the values. Duuu

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                          • tom66
                            EVs Rule
                            • Apr 2011
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                            #93
                            Re: Problem with Samsung ps43d490 PDP

                            OK, now look at the light on the control board. it will either light not at all, flash a few times then stop, flash once a second or once about every 5~7 seconds, what does it do?
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                            • snipersquad100
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                              #94
                              Re: Problem with Samsung ps43d490 PDP

                              it flashes on for 5 secs then off for 2 sec.

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                              • tom66
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                                #95
                                Re: Problem with Samsung ps43d490 PDP

                                OK, replace the X- and Y-main boards then.
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                                • snipersquad100
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                                  #96
                                  Re: Problem with Samsung ps43d490 PDP

                                  ok, whats the web site you used? when I googled parts4u it only came up with car parts.
                                  Why do you think its the x and y boards and not the control board?

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                                  • snipersquad100
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                                    #97
                                    Re: Problem with Samsung ps43d490 PDP

                                    Ahh haa, look at the middle chip on the x board, legs have been blown off. I cant read the part number thou, bummer.
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                                    • tom66
                                      EVs Rule
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                                      #98
                                      Re: Problem with Samsung ps43d490 PDP

                                      No, that's by (odd) design. Samsung made a mistake and cut them after production.
                                      The 5-2 indicates a DRV RESET fault due to X- or Y-main failure, control board would not cause this.
                                      I don't suggest component level repair of these, simply because the exact reason for failure isn't fully understood and they may cost more to repair than it's worth it... this situation may change in the future though.
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                                      • snipersquad100
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                                        #99
                                        Re: Problem with Samsung ps43d490 PDP

                                        the 3 chips have got hot as well that's why u cant read the numbers, you can read all the other chips. anyway i'll get now x and y. whats that site again parts4you .uk .com .??

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                                        • tom66
                                          EVs Rule
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                                          #100
                                          Re: Problem with Samsung ps43d490 PDP

                                          http://www.parts4u.me.uk/
                                          Be prepared to get a dud board... it happens.
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