HP 50" Plasma TV, Model: CPTOH-0603... plz, need help troubleshooting

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  • capkid
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    Re: HP 50" Plasma TV, Model: CPTOH-0603... plz, need help troubleshooting

    You can take a fet from your old lower, but you need to test them first, obviously. If you're not sure how to test a mosfet, here are a couple different methods:

    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...52&postcount=7

    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...5&postcount=17
    Last edited by capkid; 08-10-2013, 01:22 PM.

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  • ngc1068
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    maybe i can rob a good FET from my old lower board and replace a bad one on the upper?

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  • ngc1068
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    Re: HP 50" Plasma TV, Model: CPTOH-0603... plz, need help troubleshooting

    oh wait, the upper drv board ohms are low today, 88.3ohms and 77.6. bad FET on upper?

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  • ngc1068
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    Re: HP 50" Plasma TV, Model: CPTOH-0603... plz, need help troubleshooting

    ya, thats where im measuring....do u have skype? lol

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  • tom66
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    Re: HP 50" Plasma TV, Model: CPTOH-0603... plz, need help troubleshooting

    On all FETs? What about across the two large pad connections going to the Y-sus?

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  • ngc1068
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    Re: HP 50" Plasma TV, Model: CPTOH-0603... plz, need help troubleshooting

    no, infinite one way, 2.4megohm the other way

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  • tom66
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    Re: HP 50" Plasma TV, Model: CPTOH-0603... plz, need help troubleshooting

    Did you read near zero on some of the FETs?

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  • ngc1068
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    Re: HP 50" Plasma TV, Model: CPTOH-0603... plz, need help troubleshooting

    I disconnected just the top YDRV and i get the same screen with top blacked out.

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  • ngc1068
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    Re: HP 50" Plasma TV, Model: CPTOH-0603... plz, need help troubleshooting

    Hmmm...

    I disconnected the ydrv bottom, and I get the same display as above, only the bottom half is black. Also the ohms of the FETs on the new board match the upper y-drv board.

    Ldmme guess? I got sold a bad ysus board?

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  • ngc1068
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    Hmmm...

    I purchased a YSUS and YDRVBT board and installed them today.

    Unfortunately, it didn't solve the all problems.

    Now I have bright blue sparkling pixels all over the screen, with this white vertical stripe that moves to different positions left to right every so often.

    Ya think I got a bad YDRV board?
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  • capkid
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    Re: HP 50" Plasma TV, Model: CPTOH-0603... plz, need help troubleshooting

    Originally posted by tom66
    You can also use a service like "Coppell TV repair" on eBay who will replace your IPMs for $130.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sustain-6871...item255d4e1b2d
    I'd set a limit in my head of $100, but that's certainly a quick and less dirty option. Coppell does good work.

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  • tom66
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    You can also use a service like "Coppell TV repair" on eBay who will replace your IPMs for $130.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sustain-6871...item255d4e1b2d

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  • capkid
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    Re: HP 50" Plasma TV, Model: CPTOH-0603... plz, need help troubleshooting

    Originally posted by ngc1068
    Upon removing and inspecting, it definitely looks like some heat on Y-SUS around the upper IPM, clear residue and discoloration, around the ER_LOW pin area and the C5, C6, C24 area.

    Not clear to me how to remove the IPM heatsinks, do you have to unsolder the IPM from the rear and get it off the board to remove the sink? There are screws that are holding the sink on that appear otherwise inaccessible.
    The video link I provided earlier shows how to replace the IPMs. It's not an easy procedure without the proper equipment, and you have to be careful not to damage the traces and rings on the circuit board: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8MNQYXw8E0

    Edit: If you decide to just replace the Y-Sus as a whole, it looks like you have a few substitutes available: http://www.shopjimmy.com/lg-ebr30597501-ysus.htm
    Last edited by capkid; 08-05-2013, 09:31 PM.

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  • ngc1068
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    Re: HP 50" Plasma TV, Model: CPTOH-0603... plz, need help troubleshooting

    Upon removing and inspecting, it definitely looks like some heat on Y-SUS around the upper IPM, clear residue and discoloration, around the ER_LOW pin area and the C5, C6, C24 area.

    Not clear to me how to remove the IPM heatsinks, do you have to unsolder the IPM from the rear and get it off the board to remove the sink? There are screws that are holding the sink on that appear otherwise inaccessible.

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  • capkid
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    Re: HP 50" Plasma TV, Model: CPTOH-0603... plz, need help troubleshooting

    Good question. I might spend $100 to replace the Y-Sus IPMs and buffer fet for now. New TVs are very inexpensive now, so I wouldn't put much money into it.
    Last edited by capkid; 08-05-2013, 08:58 PM.

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  • ngc1068
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    Re: HP 50" Plasma TV, Model: CPTOH-0603... plz, need help troubleshooting

    If it was your TV, and you had the money to spare, would it be worth repairing?

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  • capkid
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    Re: HP 50" Plasma TV, Model: CPTOH-0603... plz, need help troubleshooting

    Originally posted by ngc1068
    Its holding 111.4VDC
    Ok, it's probably supposed to be 110V, which isn't far off. It seems to be working fine. The Y-Sus and lower Y-buffer appear to be the sole culprits.
    Last edited by capkid; 08-05-2013, 08:28 PM.

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  • ngc1068
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    Re: HP 50" Plasma TV, Model: CPTOH-0603... plz, need help troubleshooting

    Its holding 111.4VDC

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  • capkid
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    Re: HP 50" Plasma TV, Model: CPTOH-0603... plz, need help troubleshooting

    Originally posted by ngc1068
    Is there a guide on how to check that Z-sus voltages are ok?
    Check Zbias voltage across the R111 resistor on the Z-Sus - it should be somewhere around 100V. The panel label should have the exact spec.

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  • ngc1068
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    Re: HP 50" Plasma TV, Model: CPTOH-0603... plz, need help troubleshooting

    Is there a guide on how to check that Z-sus voltages are ok?

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