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  • slawson2000
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 67
    • USA

    #1

    LG 50PX1D - Black Bars on Top

    I am new at this, but the wife said fix it or get another. So here it goes..

    I have some black bars. There all the time. See below.



    I have been reading around, but have not quite grabbed the concept yet. I think it is a board. If so which one? Are boards repairable?

    Thanks in advance.
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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #2
    Re: LG 50PX1D - Black Bars on Top

    Are there ANY pixels lit in the black bars? If so, the panel is bad. If not, you probably have the common issue with cracked solder joints on the SMD resistors on the driver chips, which is repairable...
    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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    • slawson2000
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2013
      • 67
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      #3
      Re: LG 50PX1D - Black Bars on Top

      I was hoping you would chime in and tell me something different than you did. It looks like there is some mostly blue haze in the black spots and a couple faint red lines in the non-black areas (to the right of the black spot).

      From what you just said, this plasma is a lost cause, correct? If so, are any of the parts sellable or should I just toss the whole thing?

      Suggestions/requests welcome.
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      • johnboy1313
        Badcaps Legend
        • Nov 2012
        • 1959
        • USA

        #4
        Re: LG 50PX1D - Black Bars on Top

        No, don't toss it. If the panel is bad, which it does look to be, the internal boards are still good. If you have the skill and the patience, sell the boards on eBay. If not, sell the TV on Craigslist for parts.

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        • slawson2000
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 67
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          #5
          Re: LG 50PX1D - Black Bars on Top

          I have plenty of patience (skills are questionable). What are the parts I am looking to sell, and what are they worth? I would much rather see the parts go back into service than to the trash.

          Any help is appreciated.

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          • slawson2000
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            • Apr 2013
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            #6
            Re: LG 50PX1D - Black Bars on Top

            Anyone need parts?

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            • tom66
              EVs Rule
              • Apr 2011
              • 32560
              • UK

              #7
              Re: LG 50PX1D - Black Bars on Top

              Actually, I am willing to bet that I am wrong, and the panel is good, but you have maldischarge (sparklies.) On a normally dark screen, do you see such pixels elsewhere? Panel failures usually manifest themselves as stuck lines.
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              • slawson2000
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                • Apr 2013
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                • USA

                #8
                Re: LG 50PX1D - Black Bars on Top

                On a dark screen, there are a few pixels that sparkle but nothing like the photos above. Actually, unless you were looking for them you may miss it. There is a faint bluish line across the bottom as well. Neither showed up well on a picture.

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                • tom66
                  EVs Rule
                  • Apr 2011
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                  #9
                  Re: LG 50PX1D - Black Bars on Top

                  Well, it is probably worth a shot anyway, if you want to fix it. You will need to take the cover off & get us pictures.
                  Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                  For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                  • slawson2000
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                    • Apr 2013
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                    #10
                    Re: LG 50PX1D - Black Bars on Top

                    Pictures are not a problem. What do you want pictures of?

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
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                      #11
                      Re: LG 50PX1D - Black Bars on Top

                      One of the overall chassis for now, we can indicate where we need you to look from there.
                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                      • slawson2000
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                        • Apr 2013
                        • 67
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                        #12
                        Re: LG 50PX1D - Black Bars on Top

                        Not the best picture, but it should be a good starting place.
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                        • slawson2000
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                          • Apr 2013
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                          #13
                          Re: LG 50PX1D - Black Bars on Top

                          And the next step is... ?

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                          • tom66
                            EVs Rule
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 32560
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                            #14
                            Re: LG 50PX1D - Black Bars on Top

                            Sorry. Got sidetracked and missed your post.

                            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1366119703

                            Along the right of this image (top of TV) the orange connectors are the suspects. Turn the TV on and try to locate which ribbon the bars affect. Then turn it off and unplug the suspect ribbons. (Do not unplug them while the TV is running.)

                            Once you have located those ribbons, you will see some resistors on them. Apply new solder to each end.
                            http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/bl...032314_cof.jpg
                            Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                            For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                            • slawson2000
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                              • Apr 2013
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                              #15
                              Re: LG 50PX1D - Black Bars on Top

                              I am not sure I am looking in the right place. Where should they be?

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                              • cliff_hootarski
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 411
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                                #16
                                Re: LG 50PX1D - Black Bars on Top

                                The aluminum bar with the "WARNING" sticker is the heatsink for the "COF". Under the heatsink should be an IC and maybe resistors. You can see from your picture the film ribbon cable going from the connector board to the panel.

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                                • slawson2000
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                                  • Apr 2013
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                                  #17
                                  Re: LG 50PX1D - Black Bars on Top

                                  Found them. They "look" okay, but... Now do I add solder or just re-melt what is there?

                                  Is there a way to test them?

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                                  • cliff_hootarski
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Jul 2006
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                                    #18
                                    Re: LG 50PX1D - Black Bars on Top

                                    Please take a picture.

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                                    • slawson2000
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Apr 2013
                                      • 67
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                                      #19
                                      Re: LG 50PX1D - Black Bars on Top

                                      Per your request....
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                                      • cliff_hootarski
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Jul 2006
                                        • 411
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                                        #20
                                        Re: LG 50PX1D - Black Bars on Top

                                        Now, is that a picture of the COF that corresponds to one the black bars (those are the ones you need to concentrate on)? I would assume under each rectangular pad is an IC. Hopefully the IC's are good. The only set I have any experience with was an rebranded LG with no resistors and the IC was bad leaving a rather large black vertical bar. (could not repair)

                                        Tom referred to adding/resoldering the resistors (marked with 100). It would be a rather delicate operation with that thin film! Of course you've got nothing to lose.
                                        Last edited by cliff_hootarski; 04-18-2013, 12:46 PM. Reason: grammar

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