HP ProBook 650 G8 - HP Wolf Security f*%&up. Insane bug, is there any hope?

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  • silencer51
    New Member
    • Dec 2016
    • 5
    • Greece

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    HP ProBook 650 G8 - HP Wolf Security f*%&up. Insane bug, is there any hope?

    A client has one of these laptops. She uses it as a personal machine and had left everything on defaults. These laptops come included with a slew of zero-trust based security 'enhancements'. One day, after a Windows update, somehow the Pre-Boot Authentication safeguard was triggered, and since then the laptop has been asking not for her Windows password, but for the password of the temporary profile that Windows creates during updates (defaultuser0, defaultuser1 etc.)

    Per Microsoft documentation, this is a hidden profile with a randomly generated password. And somehow, the preinstalled HP crapware considered that this temporary profile switch during Windows updates meant that the main user of the laptop has now become 'defaultuser1', instead of the laptop owner's profile). Therefore: password is unknown, and from what I understand RCUnlocker doesn't seem to work on these newer 256mbit BIOSes to completely purge said password prompt.

    HP says that this is 'user error', and wants over a 1000 euros for a new board. Is there really no hope for this otherwise pristine laptop? I was able to boot into the OS by plugging the SSD on another Intel machine, but HP software wouldn't work (of course), although I highly doubt these passwords are stored anywhere accessible.

    The BIOS chip is a Macronix MX25L25673GZ4, WSON 8 chip. My trust SOIC 8 clip doesn't work, sadly, so I need to either desolder the chip or get one of those WSON test lead adapters offaliexpress... thing is, is it worth it? Is there a way to recover this stupidly locked out BIOS?
  • onizzbox
    Banned
    • Nov 2018
    • 604
    • Brazil

    #2
    Re: HP ProBook 650 G8 - HP Wolf Security f*%&up. Insane bug, is there any hope?

    Originally posted by silencer51
    A client has one of these laptops. She uses it as a personal machine and had left everything on defaults. These laptops come included with a slew of zero-trust based security 'enhancements'. One day, after a Windows update, somehow the Pre-Boot Authentication safeguard was triggered, and since then the laptop has been asking not for her Windows password, but for the password of the temporary profile that Windows creates during updates (defaultuser0, defaultuser1 etc.)

    Per Microsoft documentation, this is a hidden profile with a randomly generated password. And somehow, the preinstalled HP crapware considered that this temporary profile switch during Windows updates meant that the main user of the laptop has now become 'defaultuser1', instead of the laptop owner's profile). Therefore: password is unknown, and from what I understand RCUnlocker doesn't seem to work on these newer 256mbit BIOSes to completely purge said password prompt.

    HP says that this is 'user error', and wants over a 1000 euros for a new board. Is there really no hope for this otherwise pristine laptop? I was able to boot into the OS by plugging the SSD on another Intel machine, but HP software wouldn't work (of course), although I highly doubt these passwords are stored anywhere accessible.

    The BIOS chip is a Macronix MX25L25673GZ4, WSON 8 chip. My trust SOIC 8 clip doesn't work, sadly, so I need to either desolder the chip or get one of those WSON test lead adapters offaliexpress... thing is, is it worth it? Is there a way to recover this stupidly locked out BIOS?
    Don't waste your time with BIOS, this laptop has a corporate origin, i.e. it belonged to a company, the security implementation is contained in the EC/KBC, the only solution is to reprogram it with a specialized programmer.

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    • silencer51
      New Member
      • Dec 2016
      • 5
      • Greece

      #3
      Re: HP ProBook 650 G8 - HP Wolf Security f*%&up. Insane bug, is there any hope?

      But thats the thing. It did not belong to a company. It was however bundled with all sorts of enteprise grade security bloatware that was activated by default. My client has every password ever used on this machine, including BitLocker keys etc. But the defaultuser1 account was created by Windows and for some reason, the pre boot authentication attempts to use the credentials of this account to start the machine - an account created by windows update, with a random password.

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      • onizzbox
        Banned
        • Nov 2018
        • 604
        • Brazil

        #4
        Re: HP ProBook 650 G8 - HP Wolf Security f*%&up. Insane bug, is there any hope?

        Originally posted by silencer51
        But thats the thing. It did not belong to a company. It was however bundled with all sorts of enteprise grade security bloatware that was activated by default. My client has every password ever used on this machine, including BitLocker keys etc. But the defaultuser1 account was created by Windows and for some reason, the pre boot authentication attempts to use the credentials of this account to start the machine - an account created by windows update, with a random password.
        @silencer51
        One solution, do a fresh clean install of Windows, at the time of installation when prompted to connect to the network, select the (limited) option.

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        • silencer51
          New Member
          • Dec 2016
          • 5
          • Greece

          #5
          Re: HP ProBook 650 G8 - HP Wolf Security f*%&up. Insane bug, is there any hope?

          Unfortunately the laptop is completely locked - you can't do anything, not even invoke the boot menu.

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          • sophien
            macbook
            • Aug 2013
            • 2
            • the netherlands

            #6
            Re: HP ProBook 650 G8 - HP Wolf Security f*%&up. Insane bug, is there any hope?

            hi i need this bios HP ProBook 650 G8 PROBOOK 640 G8 Bios bin

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            • Mrnixdorf
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2016
              • 120
              • Morocco

              #7
              Re: HP ProBook 650 G8 - HP Wolf Security f*%&up. Insane bug, is there any hope?

              Hi, I can't remove the bios password for this hp PROBOOK 650 G8
              Last edited by SMDFlea; 03-30-2023, 04:44 AM. Reason: Attachments cleanup,server space low.

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              • hoaca388
                Badcaps
                • Jan 2022
                • 11707
                • Socialist Republic of Vietnam

                #8
                Re: HP ProBook 650 G8 - HP Wolf Security f*%&up. Insane bug, is there any hope?

                Originally posted by Mrnixdorf
                Hi, I can't remove the bios password for this hp PROBOOK 650 G8
                In the fisrt boot, toy have to go into bios setting for disable all the security option.
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                • Mrnixdorf
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                  • Sep 2016
                  • 120
                  • Morocco

                  #9
                  Re: HP ProBook 650 G8 - HP Wolf Security f*%&up. Insane bug, is there any hope?

                  Thank You Brother

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