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  • lapfix
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    • Mar 2020
    • 2715
    • my workshop

    #1

    Lenovo IdeaPad 3 NM-C961.no display

    Hello everyone.
    lap and motherboard : IdeaPad 3-15IGL05 Laptop - Type 81WQ
    NM-C961.
    Behaviour : connect charger it power on automatically ,reach 0.170 amp than down to 0.74 amp...no display.
    with battery connected it reach 980 amp than 870 ...no display
    No short ; no corrision no intervention before.
    Try 2 differents bios versions same behaviour.

    Some measuremets :
    PL 1600 = 5valw present
    pl 1100 = 3 vlalw present
    pl 100 = 0.221 v without battery and when battery connected 7.8 volt
    pl 6602 = 1.2 v
    pl 6603 = 1.056v
    pl 6604 =0.807 v
    pl 6601 = 0.732 v
    pl 6606 = 1.2valw
    pl 6605 = 1.8 alw
    3/5 vs present
    1.8 vs present
    1.05vs present

    Vcc rtc =3.2v
    rtcrst = 3.2v
    +2.5v ddr present
    Drmrast 1.2v present
    +3valw_soc present
    pltrst =3.3v present
    Alw_pgood = 3.3v present

    5 valw pgood = 3.3v present
    3 valw pgood = weired behaviour , somtimes i find 0.5v and sometimes 5 v and start to downgrade.
    rsmrst 3.2v present.

    Schematic and BRD :

    Any other idea to check !!

  • mcplslg123
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    • Jun 2015
    • 7262
    • india

    #2
    Measurements are all fine. Have you checked communication on LPC lines like LPCLAD/LPCFRAME/LPC CLK etc?

    Can be checked only on DSO.

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    • lapfix
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      • Mar 2020
      • 2715
      • my workshop

      #3
      Thank you mcplslg
      unfortunately not .

      I tested everything around the BQ nothing that gives me a doubt..

      the fact that the pc starts with a consumption going up to 0.170 amp then it drops to 0.65 amp and that all the voltages are always the same ..so it's a problem of power !!
      My only doubt is for the integrated memory..especially that it does not have a socket for an external so i can't disable it via bios to be sure...nothing to add...
      End of story !
      Last edited by lapfix; 06-02-2025, 05:01 AM.

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      • mon2
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        • Dec 2019
        • 14024
        • Canada

        #4
        Confirm the voltage to ground of:

        RT5077A_VCC ; stable?

        ALW_PGOOD ; stable? This is an output signal from PU6601 RT5077AGQW_WQFN52_6X6

        +3VL ; pin 13 LDO output on PU1100

        +5VLP ; pin 12 LDO output on PU1600

        ACOK ; pin 5 on PU100 (charger IC)

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        • mcplslg123
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          • Jun 2015
          • 7262
          • india

          #5
          I dont agree with your observatione on post#3. Its rather expected that consumption should drop to such low level after going to its peak consumption. Moreover, this indicates that onboard ram is perhaps working fine
          and ram is correctly read/recognised..

          Yeh these small SOC's tend to fail 'coz of poor aluminium heatsink and fanless designs in most cases.

          I beleive your programmer supports 1.8V chip as the chip used here is 1.8V.

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          • lapfix
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            • Mar 2020
            • 2715
            • my workshop

            #6
            @mon2

            RT5077A_VCC = DDR_SEL
            pin 23 = 0.030v than drop slowly
            resistance = 20 mohm and drop slowly
            diode = 0.633
            the PR6633 and PR6637 are not populated but i find my 5v stable at PR6633 pin 1
            notice that this is a onboard ram , no socket for external ram
            ALW_PGOOD = RSMRST#
            pin 36 = 3.3 stable
            +3VL = pin 13 LDO output on PU1100 3v stable
            +5VLP = pin 12 LDO output on PU1600 5v stable
            ACOK = pin 5 on PU100 (charger IC) 3.3v stable

            mcplslg123

            Yes you are right : " these small SOC's tend to fail 'coz of poor aluminium heatsink and fanless designs in most cases.
            "
            i'm using a virgin bios ,the main is CN21WW and i only find DVCN34WW and also using peste bios dvcn22ww but no chance
            " I beleive your programmer supports 1.8V chip" yes of course

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