please help friend's thinkpad T480 NM-b501 dead, VSYS_OUT 9.2v, thank you

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  • fredyjbi
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    Originally posted by mon2
    These look like good values to me. Suggest for you to (carefully) review the voltages to ground of these same inductors on the known good board -> make a table of these measurements. Then compare the same measurements on this non-working board.
    Oh, that means sir, it's not a problem with the charging block, because the charging IC produces the VSYS_OUT vin, and sir, I compared it with a normal board which is different only on the PL701 VCC1R0_SUS 18 ohm, on the normal PL701 board 28 ohm, thank you very much sir for your help

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  • mon2
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    These look like good values to me. Suggest for you to (carefully) review the voltages to ground of these same inductors on the known good board -> make a table of these measurements. Then compare the same measurements on this non-working board.

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  • fredyjbi
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    Originally posted by mon2
    With no power to the board. Meter in resistance mode. Measure the resistance to ground of each inductor on the board. Usually they are grey in color. Checking for a shorted power rail on the logic board. Post any suspects that you find.
    Meter in resistance mode auto range
    PL201 VCC5MP 989 ohm
    PL202 VCC3M 900k ohm keeps dropping
    PL701 VCC1R0_SUS 18 ohm
    PL301 VCC1R2AP 350 ohm
    PL702 VCC1R8_SUS 1,2M ohm keeps dropping
    PL101 17K ohm
    PL403 VCCGFXCORE_I 10 ohm
    PL401 VCCCPUCORE 7 ohm
    PL402 VCCCPUCORE 7 ohm
    PL404 VCCSA 21 ohm
    L6 VCC0R9_TBT_SVR 1,6 k ohm
    L51 VCC3_SUS 700k ohm keeps dropping​

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  • fredyjbi
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    Originally posted by mon2
    With no power to the board. Meter in resistance mode. Measure the resistance to ground of each inductor on the board. Usually they are grey in color. Checking for a shorted power rail on the logic board. Post any suspects that you find.
    OK, wait a minute, I'll take measurements

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  • mon2
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    With no power to the board. Meter in resistance mode. Measure the resistance to ground of each inductor on the board. Usually they are grey in color. Checking for a shorted power rail on the logic board. Post any suspects that you find.

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  • fredyjbi
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    Originally posted by mon2
    To confirm your post # 2 - with an external power supply injection of 10v2, the board works fine?

    How is the operation of this board using a charged battery?
    Sorry sir, I'm late in giving an answer, the battery is damaged so I can't try, but I installed an adapter and injected 10.2v into VSYS_OUT, the result is the same, it still won't turn on, where else should I check, is there a problem with the charging IC circuit, thank you

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  • mon2
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    To confirm your post # 2 - with an external power supply injection of 10v2, the board works fine?

    How is the operation of this board using a charged battery?

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  • fredyjbi
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    Originally posted by mon2
    That was my next question

    With no power, what is the resistance to ground of VCC3M ? Do you have a voltage @ M_ON which is the enable for this power rail ? If this power rail is shorted or is drawing too much current, then M_ON will be OFF.
    Thank you very much for your help sir. I have been working with this mobo for 4 days and it still won't turn on hi...
    VCC3M 0V
    M_ON_1 0v
    Remove all power -> meter in RESISTOR mode
    VCC3M 10K ohm
    M_ON_1 3m ohm​

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  • fredyjbi
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    Originally posted by mon2
    That was my next question

    With no power, what is the resistance to ground of VCC3M ? Do you have a voltage @ M_ON which is the enable for this power rail ? If this power rail is shorted or is drawing too much current, then M_ON will be OFF.
    ha.. saya tidak memiliki tegangan M_ON 0V pak, VCC3M PL202 dioda mode 822 baik baik saja

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  • mon2
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    That was my next question

    With no power, what is the resistance to ground of VCC3M ? Do you have a voltage @ M_ON which is the enable for this power rail ? If this power rail is shorted or is drawing too much current, then M_ON will be OFF.

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  • fredyjbi
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    Originally posted by mon2

    Remove all power -> meter in DIODE mode -> red meter probe (yes RED) to ground. Black meter probe on point to test.

    Test:

    ​PD7
    PD8


    Post each diode mode measurement.
    Sorry, I'll correct you in advance, sir, I don't have VCC3M 0v, thank you

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  • fredyjbi
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    Originally posted by mon2

    Remove all power -> meter in DIODE mode -> red meter probe (yes RED) to ground. Black meter probe on point to test.

    Test:

    PD7
    PD8


    Post each diode mode measurement.
    dioda mode
    PD7 870
    PD8 870

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  • mon2
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    I2C_CLK_BT1 R10255 pin 1 0v
    I2C_DATA_BT1 R10256 pin 1 0v
    Remove all power -> meter in DIODE mode -> red meter probe (yes RED) to ground. Black meter probe on point to test.

    Test:

    ​PD7
    PD8


    Post each diode mode measurement.

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  • fredyjbi
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    Originally posted by mon2
    Share the voltage to ground of:

    I2C_CLK_CHARGE
    I2C_DATA_CHARGE

    I2C_CLK_BT1
    I2C_DATA_BT1
    Thank you sir for your help. I have 2 boards with the same case
    I2C_CLK_CHARGE 001.4v
    I2C_DATA_CHARGE 001.4v

    I2C_CLK_BT1 R10255 pin 1 0v
    I2C_DATA_BT1 R10256 pin 1 0v

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  • mon2
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    Be very careful about high voltage injection because if there is a leaking high side mosfet, the high voltage will enter the low voltage devices and can cause damage.

    From this last test, the unit powers up ok with 10v2 injection?

    This voltage is configured using the I2C / SMBUS lines so do review their voltage to ground.

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  • fredyjbi
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    I injected 10.2v on VSYS_OUT everything looks fine, please sir mon2 help me complete this board thank you

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  • mon2
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    Share the voltage to ground of:

    I2C_CLK_CHARGE
    I2C_DATA_CHARGE

    I2C_CLK_BT1
    I2C_DATA_BT1

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  • please help friend's thinkpad T480 NM-b501 dead, VSYS_OUT 9.2v, thank you

    Please help sir, this board does not turn on because VSYS_OUT is 9.2v, I compared it with a normal board VSYS_OUT is 10.2v, I have replaced the PQ101 and PQ102 mosfet and BQ 25700 which is known to be good, but the results are still the same, thank you

    VSYS_OUT 9.2v
    Meter in resistance mode auto range 6M ohm ok

    NORMAL BOARD VSYS_OUT 10.2V

    LINK to schematic -> https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubl...b501-schematic

    PQ101
    PIN 2 20V
    PIN 7 0.004V
    PIN 6 6V
    PIN 5678 0V

    PQ102
    PIN 567 0V
    PIN 9 0.004V
    PIN 234 9.2V (VSYS_OUT)

    PU101 BQ25700ARSNR
    1 VBUS 20V
    2 ACN 20,21V
    3 ACP 20,21V
    7 VDDa 6v
    5 chrg_ok 0v

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    Please help friends, thinkpad t480 nm-b501 is dead
    by fredyjbi
    Please help friends, thinkpad t480 nm-b501 is dead, help me fix it, thank you
    usb meter 20v 0.00 amp, after I took the VSYS measurement the drop was only `9.2v which should have been 10.2v I measured from a normal matherboard machine, the VSYS path resistance to ground diode mode is 1900 thank you

    LINK to Schematic -> https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubl...b501-schematic
    04-16-2024, 08:34 AM
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