Troubleshooting Asus Tuf Gaming A15 FA506QM 33v & 5v rails

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  • orgamisho
    New Member
    • Dec 2023
    • 6
    • Bulgaria

    #1

    Troubleshooting Asus Tuf Gaming A15 FA506QM 33v & 5v rails

    Hello!

    I am still learning on laptop repairs and I am currently working on the above mentioned device.
    Currently the laptop is dead (no power on). The device takes 2-3 mA when 20v are injected onto the charging plug.
    Main power rail is present (20v), but no other power rail is present, including the 3v and 5v. I noticed that when no power is connected the 3v and 5v coils have large (normal) resistence to ground, but when I plug the power, both are being shorted to ground.
    I wonder is that an expected behavior or there is an outer protection activated.

    What I tried so far without result:
    replaced the 3v and 5v dual channel buck converter.
    replaced the grounding mosfets at the 3v and 5v rails

    Here is the schematics (pcb model DA0NJFMBAD0) :

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    When I inject 2-3 volts on the 5v coil, i see that (with termal camera) that PQ1003 mosfet is leaking to ground. When this vilatage is injected on the 3v coil, no leakage appears.
    When I measure the mosfet only, no issue is observed.

    The only concerns I have about by work so far is that the components were taken from spare boards and there is a sligh chance they are not working, but I find it would be really unluccky to repeat the very same problem, when most of the active components were replaced. And also - the PC1015 cap broke during cleaning the board with toothbrush ( I think it was crack soldered), but I am undable to solder it back due to very small size and bad positioning.

    Any advice would be appreciated, thanks! ​
  • mon2
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2019
    • 13830
    • Canada

    #2
    For voltage injection, always keep the voltage to 1 volt or under. This is because we do not really know where the voltage is leaking and it may be hitting the CPU rail. Chances are high that if that did happen, then the CPU & PCH are dead.

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    • orgamisho
      New Member
      • Dec 2023
      • 6
      • Bulgaria

      #3
      Thanks for the advice, but don't do it blindly. I am increasing gradually and first checked the CPU so I am sure it is not shorted.

      After further investigation today, I noticed that actually when I plug the charger, 20v goes to the 3.3V mosfets' gates.
      After checking the gates resistence to main power rail on charger unplugged there was about 10k+ ohms resistence.
      Applying 1 volt to the gates and the 3v and 5v controller chip takes about 250mA power.

      I dont have another RT6575 to replace and try, but I wonder if the gate pins were shorted to 20V, wouldn't they be shorted all the time?

      Any suggestions anybody?

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      • aranli1
        New Member
        • Feb 2022
        • 1
        • argentina

        #4
        Hi,
        orgamisho could you fix it? I have the same problem, with asus tuf gaming and i think is the same model. I had the main 20V line shorted, one of the mosfets shorted it and there was also a GPU mosfet shorted, but the 5v and 3v lines give me a short circuit when measuring the coils. But injecting voltage the same thing happened to me, I couldn't track anything with the thermal camera, there are components that raised temperature but negligible consumption, it must be some protection, but I don't know.
        Thanks!
        Regards!
        Aranli1

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        • mcplslg123
          Badcaps Legend
          • Jun 2015
          • 7262
          • india

          #5
          Its a gaming motherboard and such a casual approach to fix it may not result in a fix. Why not check basics first instead of jumping into conclusion and playing with voltage injection?
          If you are not getting 3V/5V standby,there must be reason.
          Measure voltage on VIN/VREG3/VREG5/EN1/EN2 to begin with.

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          • DjSvoy
            Member
            • Nov 2019
            • 17
            • Canada

            #6
            Has anyone solved this issue?
            I have the same problem; measured voltages on VIN/VREG3/VREG5 are present, and only the Enable signals EN1/EN2 are missing.
            According to the schematics, the Enable signal S5_ON is coming from KU1 (IT5570VG-128/DX) microcontroller chip.
            Can anyone confirm it?
            Thanks.

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            • Sephir0th
              Badcaps Legend
              • Oct 2020
              • 1250
              • Germany

              #7
              You guys are all not checking whether the EC has power, for some reason. I strongly suggest too look there first. Pay attention that the LDO is regularly separated by a load switch on ASUS boards and for this reason you don't get the clue from checking LDO3/VREG3 only.
              FairRepair on YouTube

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