Acer nitro 5 bq24781 no acdrv

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  • elsomer
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 50
    • mexico

    #1

    Acer nitro 5 bq24781 no acdrv

    Hi people, i have an acer nitro 5 with motherboard model gh51m la-k861p , it came with the resistor pr103 blow up, i repaced that resistor, i check the coils plb2, pl301, pl501 and has no short to ground, i conect the charger and it doesnt power at all, i check pqb3 on pin 5 to 8 and its 19v, pin 1 to 4 its 0
    so i repaced, pqb3, pqb4, and makes no change, still no acdrv, i replaced bq24781 and makes no change, still no acdrv, if someone can help pls, thanks, this are the schematic and boardview

    [MOD EDIT] LINK to schematic & boardview -> https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubl...55-57-la-k861p
    Last edited by SMDFlea; 04-22-2024, 12:12 PM. Reason: LINK to schematic
  • mon2
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2019
    • 13850
    • Canada

    #2
    1) With no power to the board, measure the resistance (not diode mode) to ground of PQB4 (drain pins 5-6-7-8). Checking to see if the main power rail is shorted or not.

    2) Carefully, measure the voltage to ground on PUB1 for pins:

    (connect your power adapter)

    ACDET ; pin 6
    VCC ; pin 28
    REGN ; pin 24


    Post each measurement.

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    • elsomer
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2012
      • 50
      • mexico

      #3
      Hi mon2, thanks for answer, pins 5 to 8 of pqb4 has no shorted rail here are the values of pub1
      acdet: 0v
      vcc : 19.5v
      regn : 0v

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      • mon2
        Badcaps Legend
        • Dec 2019
        • 13850
        • Canada

        #4
        What is the voltage to ground of ADAPDET ?

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        • elsomer
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 50
          • mexico

          #5
          it has no shorted rail ,the value on resistance mode is 62kohm , im checking that value on cap pcb18

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          • mon2
            Badcaps Legend
            • Dec 2019
            • 13850
            • Canada

            #6
            See attached. Need to review the mosfet gate voltage.

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            • elsomer
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 50
              • mexico

              #7
              Prb36 which is on the line adapdet is 5.8v and pin 1 on pqb11 is 5.8v

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              • mon2
                Badcaps Legend
                • Dec 2019
                • 13850
                • Canada

                #8
                The ADAPDET pin on the DCin power adapter is not connected. When the power adapter is connected, this line should be LOW which will turn OFF PQB11. Once PQB11 is OFF, the ACDET voltage will be at the proper threshold > 2v7 and the charger IC should enable ACDRV.

                Test the theory by shorting PQB11 gate pin to ground. Summary - power adapter connector contact may be loose.

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                • elsomer
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 50
                  • mexico

                  #9
                  Test the theory by shorting PQB11 gate pin to ground, i did this and now acdet is 2.6v

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                  • elsomer
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 50
                    • mexico

                    #10
                    this means i need to replace pqb11?

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                    • mon2
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Dec 2019
                      • 13850
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                      #11
                      No. Just connect a piece of wire between ground and the GATE pin on PQB11. Have the power adapter connected as well.

                      If the adapter is the proper one for this model, it will supply the ~19v.

                      OR

                      Flux and remove PQB11 for testing. This will allow for ACDET to return to a normal value. Confirm it.

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                      • elsomer
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 50
                        • mexico

                        #12
                        yeah, laptop is working perfect without the pqb11, do i need to replace it? or is there any risk of using the laptop without it?

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                        • mon2
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Dec 2019
                          • 13850
                          • Canada

                          #13
                          The detection of the adapter is through this tiny circuit area we have reviewed today. Technically, if the power adapter is disconnected, then this ACDET voltage will also go to zero volts (since the voltage is based on the adapter voltage being lowered by the resistor based voltage divider) so from a quick review - yes, it is safe to leave it as-is. Perhaps wait on other techs to chime in for their view but looks ok to me.

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                          • elsomer
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 50
                            • mexico

                            #14
                            ok, thank you very much for help me , i learned a lot

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                            • mon2
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                              • Dec 2019
                              • 13850
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                              #15
                              You are quite welcome

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