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  • tommy97
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2023
    • 150
    • United Kingdom

    #1

    FX505DT No power

    Hi, I have problem with ASUS FX505DT, it was brought to me for no power, instant short on U8100 (TPS51225C), I've got replacement chip, nothing been changed (Chip warm up instantly after connecting the charger for up to 80C).I believe that +VDDCR_CPU_SOC or just low resistance 4ohm, (L8002 6.5Ohm to the ground, L8001 4.5Ohm to the ground, L8000 4.5Ohm to the ground), any advice what i should look for?
  • mon2
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2019
    • 13933
    • Canada

    #2
    This low resistance is ok for a cpu / gpu. Start with checking the usual dcin mosfets. Do review the sticky above on charger circuits by piernov.

    measure the voltage to ground of each mosfet pin.

    source (1-2-3)
    gate (4)
    drain (5-6-7-8)

    post each measurement. Also share the topside markings of these dcin mosfets and the charger ic. post pics of the area if not known.

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    • piernov
      Super Moderator
      • Jan 2016
      • 4435
      • France

      #3
      No resistance to ground measurements on 3V/5V regulator?
      OpenBoardView — https://github.com/OpenBoardView/OpenBoardView

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      • mcplslg123
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jun 2015
        • 7262
        • india

        #4
        If U8100 is heating up,then very likely one of the LDO rail is shorted.Measure resistance to GND on 3V LDO and 5V LDO. No power attached.

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        • tommy97
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2023
          • 150
          • United Kingdom

          #5
          Q8801&Q8802 - Gate 24V, Source & drain 19V (SM4511 Both) mon2
          5V_LX 0.24v 3V_LX Missing, 5VA Missing, 3VA &+RTC POWER Missing
          Q8100 - Drain and source 19V - Gate missing

          U8100 Resistance to the GND: piernov , mcplslg123
          1:180K
          2.9K
          3.5Ohm
          4..1oh
          5.0.7ohm
          6.10k
          7.100k
          8.5k
          9.2Mohm
          10.128k
          11..135k
          12.1.2ohm
          13.414k
          14. 15k
          15.137k
          16.145k
          17. ol
          18.15k
          19.3.3Ohm
          20.10k
          .

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          • mcplslg123
            Badcaps Legend
            • Jun 2015
            • 7262
            • india

            #6
            Pin3 is for VREG3 aka 3V LDO and is clearly shorted to GND. You need to inject voltage(1V/5A) and see if anything is getting hot. Very very likely your SIO is shorted.

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            • tommy97
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2023
              • 150
              • United Kingdom

              #7
              mcplslg123 you were right, short lead to KBC (IT8987e), i've replaced it (spare from the old board), laptop power up/charge battery, however it does not display, keyboard backlight is on, react for pwr button, sometimes HDD light flash once, sometimes restarting. mon2?

              It draw 0.55amp without battery and 2.4amp with the battery attached.
              Last edited by tommy97; 01-23-2024, 04:52 AM.

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              • mon2
                Badcaps Legend
                • Dec 2019
                • 13933
                • Canada

                #8
                What are the voltage to ground readings for the charger IC @ U8800A for:

                ACOK
                ACDRV
                ACDET

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                • tommy97
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2023
                  • 150
                  • United Kingdom

                  #9
                  ACDRV - 24.5v
                  ACDET 2.65v
                  ACOK​ - 3.1V (5th leg)
                  mon2

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                  • mon2
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Dec 2019
                    • 13933
                    • Canada

                    #10
                    These are good measurements to enable the DCin mosfets (Q8801 / Q8802).

                    Confirm the voltage to ground of the DCin mosfets @ Q8801 and Q8802. Is the voltage stable @ drain pins 5-6-7-8 of Q8802?

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                    • tommy97
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2023
                      • 150
                      • United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Everything look in order 19.5v on Source and Drain, Gate 24.5v, i've just checked how it does power without the LCD connected and it seem to work, it goes to 1.2amp with no battery cpu & gpu gets hot, does not restart, fan spin. Where when connected LCD laptop goes to 0.50amp and restarting 3-6 times and then standby on 0.50amp no fan spin, checked on known tested lcd, same problem.
                      mon2
                      Last edited by tommy97; 01-23-2024, 11:59 AM.

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                      • mcplslg123
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Jun 2015
                        • 7262
                        • india

                        #12
                        IT8987E is programmable SIO.Since you got the SIO from another board,the EC firmware wont match. You need to program this SIO first with a SIO programmer like SVOD etc.
                        However, if you dont own a SIO programmer,then order a new blank SIO and solder it.It'll flash itself on first boot.

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                        • tommy97
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2023
                          • 150
                          • United Kingdom

                          #13
                          mcplslg123 thanks for your answer, I was thinking that it might be the case... I'll keep the post updated when I get the part.

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                          • G. Sling
                            New Member
                            • Nov 2024
                            • 3
                            • US

                            #14
                            Hello,
                            Which boardview file did you use for FX505DT. Looked around cant seem to find one.

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