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  • Jwh8000
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    • Feb 2012
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    #21
    Re: view sonic vx2035wm flashing blue power lite dark svreen

    thanks, I'll work on tomorrow and report back

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    • retiredcaps
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      • Apr 2010
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      #22
      Re: view sonic vx2035wm flashing blue power lite dark svreen

      Originally posted by Jwh8000
      I found a bad conection at the soder joint of c825 + side and the soder trace to L808.
      That would explain some of the fluctuating voltages on pins 4-9 (as per schematic - your pin numbering might be backwards). Pin 1 is stable at 15.5V DC.

      That is why I suggested #5 to doublecheck all your solder work especially in this area around D812, C823, C825, C822, and R833.

      Some of things I'm asking you to check is more for verification. I have an idea what to expect for #1 to #4, but it is nice to have confirmation.
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      • Jwh8000
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        • Feb 2012
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        #23
        Re: view sonic vx2035wm flashing blue power lite dark svreen

        I wasn't able to get the voltage reading since I have to get them off the bottom of the card and I cann;t get to the test points with the cables connected.

        the readings for I801 g to pin 6 is .417m

        D810
        .214
        .909
        .214
        .909

        D812
        .220
        lnf
        .219
        inf

        I'm not an electronics expert but I would expect to see the same readings on both. I would expect to see inf on the reverse readings so maybe D810 has a problem.

        I did the reading using the center pin and going to the outside pins. I hope that was the correct way to measure the dioads.

        Did I mention that when the signal cable is disconnected the voltages settle in and the blue flashing lite goes solid orange.

        All my soder points are fine and making good connections.

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        • Jwh8000
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          • Feb 2012
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          #24
          Re: view sonic vx2035wm flashing blue power lite dark svreen

          You were corect I did have P801 connecters reversed

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          • retiredcaps
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            • Apr 2010
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            #25
            Re: view sonic vx2035wm flashing blue power lite dark svreen

            Originally posted by Jwh8000
            I wasn't able to get the voltage reading since I have to get them off the bottom of the card and I cann;t get to the test points with the cables connected.
            I use cardboard for separation and to make sure the board doesn't short out. This allows you to test boards upside down and get the voltage measurements.

            the readings for I801 g to pin 6 is .417m

            D810
            .214
            .909
            .214
            .909

            D812
            .220
            lnf
            .219
            inf

            I'm not an electronics expert but I would expect to see the same readings on both. I would expect to see inf on the reverse readings so maybe D810 has a problem.
            All those readings indicate the diodes are good. A diode allows current flow in one direction so it should measure between 0.2 and 0.5V one way and infinite in the other. 0.909V is "close enough" in this case to infinity.

            If a diode read the same in either direction, it is shorted.

            Did I mention that when the signal cable is disconnected the voltages settle in and the blue flashing lite goes solid orange.
            Not that I remember.

            Which one do you call the signal cable?
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            • Jwh8000
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              #26
              Re: view sonic vx2035wm flashing blue power lite dark svreen

              analog computer cable

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              • retiredcaps
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                #27
                Re: view sonic vx2035wm flashing blue power lite dark svreen

                Originally posted by Jwh8000
                analog computer cable
                What happens if you use the DVI cable instead?
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                • Jwh8000
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                  #28
                  Re: view sonic vx2035wm flashing blue power lite dark svreen

                  same symtoms

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                  • Jwh8000
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                    #29
                    Re: view sonic vx2035wm flashing blue power lite dark svreen

                    16.4 volts across c809
                    16.4 volts on I801 pin 4 and 6

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                    • retiredcaps
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                      #30
                      Re: view sonic vx2035wm flashing blue power lite dark svreen

                      Originally posted by Jwh8000
                      16.4 volts across c809
                      16.4 volts on I801 pin 4 and 6
                      Those readings indicate that the SMPS IC is working fine as per page 5 of

                      http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datashe...C2/LD7575.html

                      Can you post a clear focused picture of the main board (front and back) as close to 2000x2000. Use macro mode if your camera has one.
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                      • Jwh8000
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                        #31
                        Re: view sonic vx2035wm flashing blue power lite dark svreen

                        is the main board the power board the one we have been working on?

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                        • retiredcaps
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                          #32
                          Re: view sonic vx2035wm flashing blue power lite dark svreen

                          Originally posted by Jwh8000
                          is the main board the power board the one we have been working on?
                          Main board has the hdmi, rca connections. The 2 previous photos you have are not clear enough to make details (all fuzzy). It should be like this clear so we can make out all the detail and suggest test points.

                          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...0&d=1290283049
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                          • Jwh8000
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                            #33
                            Re: view sonic vx2035wm flashing blue power lite dark svreen

                            I got a better pic for you
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                            • retiredcaps
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                              #34
                              Re: view sonic vx2035wm flashing blue power lite dark svreen

                              Originally posted by Jwh8000
                              D810
                              .214
                              .909
                              .214
                              .909

                              D812
                              .220
                              lnf
                              .219
                              inf

                              I'm not an electronics expert but I would expect to see the same readings on both. I would expect to see inf on the reverse readings so maybe D810 has a problem.
                              I forgot to point out that sometimes in circuit readings are not 100% accurate and you have to desolder the component to get an accurate reading.
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                              • retiredcaps
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                                #35
                                Re: view sonic vx2035wm flashing blue power lite dark svreen

                                Originally posted by Jwh8000
                                I got a better pic for you
                                1) Okay, that new picture helps. Unfortunately, I don't spot anything obvious that is wrong.

                                2) My best guess right now is that something is wrong on the main board if the analog and DVI signal cause the voltages to fluctuate. Since you say the voltages are stable when there is no connection, it sounds like the main graphics chip might be shorted internally?

                                3) A really long shot would be to recap the entire main board?

                                4) I'm out of ideas for now.
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                                • Jwh8000
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                                  #36
                                  Re: view sonic vx2035wm flashing blue power lite dark svreen

                                  Let me think about it but I may just give up on for now. You were very helpfull and I wouldn't have goten this far without your help.

                                  One other thing I noticed that even with the voltages stable I was never able to bring up the menu and when I turn on the monitor without the analog cable connected I get a message on the screen that states no signal analoge cable disconnected then it goes away.

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                                  • PlainBill
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                                    #37
                                    Re: view sonic vx2035wm flashing blue power lite dark svreen

                                    Originally posted by Jwh8000
                                    Let me think about it but I may just give up on for now. You were very helpfull and I wouldn't have goten this far without your help.

                                    One other thing I noticed that even with the voltages stable I was never able to bring up the menu and when I turn on the monitor without the analog cable connected I get a message on the screen that states no signal analoge cable disconnected then it goes away.
                                    That is normal for most monitors - without a signal you are unable to access the menu.

                                    PlainBill
                                    For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

                                    Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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