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  • slayernn
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    Re: DHC-EX77MD problem with display

    Originally posted by R_J
    If the heaters are visible in post #2 then you must have acf1 and acf2, it is usually around 3~4 volts ac measured across them, not to ground
    The schematic is not correct, D521 is a 33 volt zener diode, so the voltage on Q522 collector should be about -33~-34 volts.
    Check the zener diode (covered by arrow) and make sure it is not shorted. If you have a scope check the ripple on the B-. If C521 and C522 or C003 are bad that will cause a dim display. I would try bridging them with another 47µf and see if it helps
    I see part of the display is bright [1 ~ 10], it could be that the display is bad, if it was a problem with the voltage it should effect the whole display not just part of it.
    Hello. Well post #2 is cd display which is second problem but still, its working so for now im not touching it. I'm talking about md display and schematic is related to that. I have check diode covvered with arrow (uzp-5.6b) with simple multimeter diode check and its not shorted. Q521 collector voltage is 32.3v now and should be 29 (-29) as display IC driver pin (-VG to VFL pin) get 32.3v now so i assume schematic is correct. Between acf1,acf2 i dont have reading, 0v ac. Still acf1 to ground and acf2 to ground dc i have reading ~29/30v if i remember. Thanx for effort and im looking forward. I'll check caps c521,c522,c003.

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  • R_J
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    Re: DHC-EX77MD problem with display

    If the heaters are visible in post #2 then you must have acf1 and acf2, it is usually around 3~4 volts ac measured across them, not to ground
    The schematic is not correct, D521 is a 33 volt zener diode, so the voltage on Q522 collector should be about -33~-34 volts.
    Check the zener diode (covered by arrow) and make sure it is not shorted. If you have a scope check the ripple on the B-. If C521 and C522 or C003 are bad that will cause a dim display. I would try bridging them with another 47µf and see if it helps
    I see part of the display is bright [1 ~ 10], it could be that the display is bad, if it was a problem with the voltage it should effect the whole display not just part of it.
    Last edited by R_J; 05-07-2019, 03:58 PM.

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  • slayernn
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    Re: DHC-EX77MD problem with display

    Yes, sorry forgot to add that..and, sony_mds_ex77_full_sm.pdf exceed forum upload size :/
    I think i'm close to problem solution.
    Voltages that come from main board and feed front board/display do not match service manual. First thing strange is that VFL pin on display ic driver show 32.3v and not 29v. 3.3V pin reading is normal. Somewhere i read that AC probe between filaments end should draw few volts (ac) and i have 0v. Still, in dc mode, end of filaments to ground show normal voltage.
    On main board section (pic included) i have removed and check all resistors, diodes and transistors, everything seems to be normal. Im not sure where im wrong.. maybe problem is Q521/Q522 transistor. Any ideas? Thanx in advance!
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  • R_J
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    Re: DHC-EX77MD problem with display

    Upload the service manual/schematic, Listing pin numbers and voltages etc. without referece has no meaning

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  • slayernn
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    Re: DHC-EX77MD problem with display

    Update monologue On MD (MDS-EX77) i check voltage on ribbon that connect main board and front board (display), pin 18,19 (ACF1,ACF2) show ~30v and pin 13 - 3.3v. So i assume main board is good and the problem is in front board/display as it is getting enough power. Hm.

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  • slayernn
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    Re: DHC-EX77MD problem with display

    To add more details, cd display heaters are visible, here is pic. Overvoltage?
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  • slayernn
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    DHC-EX77MD problem with display

    Hello! Got used hifi system which work great except few things. Display vfd on minidisc is blank, not working, other then that, MD work. Also display on cd work partially ~75% (lower brightness, especially lower bottom). So far i opened md to see any visual damage and check ribbon cable etc, which done nothing as resoult. On MD mainboard i see some burn mark under set of resistors which tells me something bad happend before and probably fixed. Is it posible that cause of problem is in amp (TA-EX77) which controls other elements via system control cable? Its strange that 2 components have fail with display (1 partially), only tuner display is working perfect. Anyone experienced in subject? Where to start, how to troubleshot? I have feeling that display is working and btw, visual inspection on MD display after i disassemble unit, looks fine, good. Im electronic hobbyist, not pro but i'm willing to understand Thanx in advance guys!

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