KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

[Spider1211]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

another question,
how are you all using the wool?

i wipe the tip across it, i dont stab it into the pot.

Light stabbing on the 'loose' part of the wool. I used to wipe but sometimes solder would fly off.

[Spider1211]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

If you swapped to T12 and brass wool at the same time (that's how the sentence reads grammatically), how can you come to a conclusion that the damp sponge (vs crap soldering iron bits) was causing you problems previously?

My bad, I was sleepy went I wrote this. I did repair my 936 but switched from sponge to brass wool. I had a similar tip (from same batch as the bad one). Never had any issue.

I switched to T12 at a later stage but kept using brass wool. I now keep the 936 as a back up.

[stj]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

another question,
how are you all using the wool?

i wipe the tip across it, i dont stab it into the pot.

[dicky96]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

I switched to T12 and brass wool. I still haven't had a dead tip or bad tip in years.

If you swapped to T12 and brass wool at the same time (that's how the sentence reads grammatically), how can you come to a conclusion that the damp sponge (vs crap soldering iron bits) was causing you problems previously?

[sam_sam_sam]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

I find brass wool gives a shorter tip life, it scrapes off the plating, metal against metal. In our manufacturing plant, this was the case and techs were actually throwing the brass wool in the garbage because it kills tips fast.

A moist sponge has always worked the best for me, as long as you don't make a steam bath. "thermal shock" for a piece of plated metal does not bother it.

The T12 soldering stands have all the wrong dimensions - many mm gap so the handle droops or falls out. This machined aluminum one is stupid expensive, the tip hits hard, nothing to catch it from falling out, usual crap design.
Russians made some mods of a cheap stand.

I have the one on the left is the one on the right any better and is it worth the money

I bought one also the angle is not correct and the opening is to wide to keep the soldering iron in place it a shame that it not made correctly because to me it would be a nice stand otherwise

I have use the brass wool and have not had a problem as such but if you clean your tip a lot it does slowly wear out your tip but I tend to run my tip a little bit hotter than maybe I should ( also have to clean the tip more often because of the higher temperature setting ) but I do not want to burn traces off the boards so there is a trade off which I willing to accept

[Spider1211]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

Interesting. I have had the opposite experience. I had a 936 (knockoff of the hakko 936 but the "high end" kind of knockoff if you can call it that ) heater element die on me and a few tips that got oxidised because of plating cracks when using sponge. I did get good millage out of it though.

I switched to T12 and brass wool. I still haven't had a dead tip or bad tip in years.

I would guess it also comes down to how the brass wool is 'packed'? Having it loosely or tightly packed in its container would act differently? (analogues to different grit sandpaper)

This machined aluminum one is stupid expensive, the tip hits hard, nothing to catch it from falling out, usual crap design.

Very true and very frustrating to use!

[stj]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

brass wool is fine,
but a lot of the cheaper stuff is brass or yellow-coated steel!!

steel is to hard - brass is soft.

[redwire]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

I find brass wool gives a shorter tip life, it scrapes off the plating, metal against metal. In our manufacturing plant, this was the case and techs were actually throwing the brass wool in the garbage because it kills tips fast.

A moist sponge has always worked the best for me, as long as you don't make a steam bath. "thermal shock" for a piece of plated metal does not bother it.

The T12 soldering stands have all the wrong dimensions - many mm gap so the handle droops or falls out. This machined aluminum one is stupid expensive, the tip hits hard, nothing to catch it from falling out, usual crap design.
Russians made some mods of a cheap stand.

[Spider1211]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

Never mind, I did not initially see the cutout in the stand for the steel wool. Although as is, it seems one would bang the tip on the stand before getting used to that angle.

[Spider1211]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

Ooops that was the wrong link

This one....

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3299...archweb201603_

Stand looks good but avoid using the sponge, they can thermally shock the tips which decreases their lifespan on the long run.

Get one of these instead. Try coaxing the seller in sending you one(they are already sending the metal wool as per the link you provided)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3245...archweb201603_

[dicky96]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

Ooops that was the wrong link

This one....

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3299...archweb201603_

[dicky96]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

I want one of these

https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale...ing+iron+stand

The reviewers say it works perfectly with the aluminium handle

[stj]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

i made a stand - it's in the ghetto-mods thread.

[sam_sam_sam]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

I found the same thing with the one that I have but I think it because the angle is not quite enough and the center of balance is off so the back end with cord is heavier than the front end of it

[redwire]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

The T12-clone stands suck! Good tips but the handle leaps out and burns carpet! How hard is it to clone a Hakko stand. LOL

[stj]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

mine is over 4 years old now, and i still have not had to replace any tips - these things never pit or burn away!!!

[tH0RiN]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

I got it sorted - there isn't a circuit board inside the handle it is a plastic thing with clips to connect to the bit (so this is one of the higher quality handles?). The silver part unscrewed from the handle section with the stain relief and the plastic part with the clips was screwed onto that

with the iron disassembled and a tip pushed in I could get it to work, but wiith it reassembled it would not. After having a very close look I figured out that the tip can not insert far enough into the handle to contact the clips

This is because there is a white silicone insert in the front section of the handle (the end where the tip inserts) and it is a bit too long so the tip can not insert far enough. I had to tease it out a bit with a small sharp screwdriver and slice a couple of mm off with a Stanley knife.

The soldering iron now works fine

Having done a bit of soldering with it my first impressions are very positive.

I think this was a bargain at £43 inc postage for the 220V version with a built in 24V PSU, with the aluminium handle and the following tips included

T12-BC1
5x T12-BC2
T12-BC3
T12-BL
T12-D12
T12-D16
T12-ILS
T12-J02
T12-KU
T12-K

And I also bought a T12-BCM2 tip separately

The seller seems to be a general shop and they just had one of these. They listed it as new and it does look new but maybe they got it somewhere and thought it didn't work or never tried it?

If anyone else has the same problem the attached pics should help

i got from 2 years "quicko" t12-952 station modified with this handle and still working great.

[dicky96]

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No it is 5x

One was loose and the other 4 are KSGER branded in sealed plastic, unopened . You can see them in the photos of the original ebay listing I posted

I don't know why this was so inexpensive - they even had a best offer option but I just payed the £43 before someone else did - this was in UK pounds but it is still only about 49 euros

[stj]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

i use T12 all the time - love it!

but

T12-BC1
5x T12-BC2
T12-BC3
T12-BL
T12-D12
T12-D16
T12-ILS
T12-J02
T12-KU
T12-K

is that "5x" an error?
those tips are normally about €3 each - that's €42 worth of tips!!
original hakko are about €35 each!

[dicky96]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

I got it sorted - there isn't a circuit board inside the handle it is a plastic thing with clips to connect to the bit (so this is one of the higher quality handles?). The silver part unscrewed from the handle section with the stain relief and the plastic part with the clips was screwed onto that

with the iron disassembled and a tip pushed in I could get it to work, but wiith it reassembled it would not. After having a very close look I figured out that the tip can not insert far enough into the handle to contact the clips

This is because there is a white silicone insert in the front section of the handle (the end where the tip inserts) and it is a bit too long so the tip can not insert far enough. I had to tease it out a bit with a small sharp screwdriver and slice a couple of mm off with a Stanley knife.

The soldering iron now works fine

Having done a bit of soldering with it my first impressions are very positive.

I think this was a bargain at £43 inc postage for the 220V version with a built in 24V PSU, with the aluminium handle and the following tips included

T12-BC1
5x T12-BC2
T12-BC3
T12-BL
T12-D12
T12-D16
T12-ILS
T12-J02
T12-KU
T12-K

And I also bought a T12-BCM2 tip separately

The seller seems to be a general shop and they just had one of these. They listed it as new and it does look new but maybe they got it somewhere and thought it didn't work or never tried it?

If anyone else has the same problem the attached pics should help