Custom build for around 2,000$.

[ChaosLegionnaire]

Re: Custom build for around 2,000$.

Would they require a total different motherboard?

u might wanna wait a few more weeks for broadwell-e instead which still uses the lga2011-3 x99 chipset.

that was answered in a previous post lol. if u want a source, here it is lol.

Most PSUs will be most efficient with between 30%-70% load

^this^ if u really must penny pinch with the electrical bill, modern psus these days are the most efficient at 50% load. so if your system is going to be at max load all the time, i can understand why someone would wanna buy twice the wattage of what they need. tho whether u actually save any money from that is a debatable affair.

[Spork Schivago]

Re: Custom build for around 2,000$.

All PSUs (at least modern ones) only provide the power you need (plus some lost to heat, etc.). Most PSUs will be most efficient with between 30%-70% load, though 80+ certified PSUs (which virtually all newer decent PSUs are) will be relatively efficient at just about any load level.

Thanks! When I was looking at PSUs a few years back, it seemed both styles were being used as a selling point. Like hey! Look at this PSU! It only provides the load that you need! So your electric bill will be nice and low and you'll be living green!

Or Hey! We provide the full 850 watt! Never feel uneasy, rest assured, you're getting the full deal with this PSU! Unlike inferior products that just provide what you need, we give you the whole shebang!


So it's kinda like hmm, which one is the better deal? I mean, I can't even really picture how the second type works, the constiant wattage ones. Isn't it the load that determines how much power is being used? If you're providing 850 watt, but the PC is only using 500, you're really only providing 500 watt, right? You can't force a device to use more amperage than what it's actually using...it's like trying to make a 60 watt light bulb a 100 watt bulb. You just can't do it. So those constant wattage PSUs confuse me a bit.

[Spork Schivago]

Re: Custom build for around 2,000$.

that was answered in a previous post lol. if u want a source, here it is lol.

^this^ if u really must penny pinch with the electrical bill, modern psus these days are the most efficient at 50% load. so if your system is going to be at max load all the time, i can understand why someone would wanna buy twice the wattage of what they need. tho whether u actually save any money from that is a debatable affair.

I gotcha. So, I mean, we're not talking crazy amounts of electric though, right? If she was running the system 24/7 and she was at 80% load maybe 96 hours out of the month, she probably wouldn't notice any difference in the electric bill versus if she was running at 50% load for the same hours, right?

[dmill89]

Re: Custom build for around 2,000$.

Or Hey! We provide the full 850 watt! Never feel uneasy, rest assured, you're getting the full deal with this PSU! Unlike inferior products that just provide what you need, we give you the whole shebang!

PSUs rated for continuous wattage just mean that they can provide full rated power 100% of the time (RMS - Rated Maximum Sustained), but they will still only draw what you actually need.

[Spork Schivago]

Re: Custom build for around 2,000$.

PSUs rated for continuous wattage just mean that they can provide full rated power 100% of the time (RMS - Rated Maximum Sustained), but they will still only draw what you actually need.

I gotcha! That makes more sense. So, they're not all rated for continuous wattage? If I purchase a good 850 watt PSU, for example, that means it might not be able to provide 850 watt 24 x 7?

[ratdude747]

Re: Custom build for around 2,000$.

I gotcha! That makes more sense. So, they're not all rated for continuous wattage? If I purchase a good 850 watt PSU, for example, that means it might not be able to provide 850 watt 24 x 7?

A good one, yes, depending on who made it. The same sort of Peak BS "watts" is common in the Car Audio world. Even good brands do it, it's all marketing. You gotta read the fine print... as good ones will list a continuous power rating in said fine print.

[Spork Schivago]

Re: Custom build for around 2,000$.

A good one, yes, depending on who made it. The same sort of Peak BS "watts" is common in the Car Audio world. Even good brands do it, it's all marketing. You gotta read the fine print... as good ones will list a continuous power rating in said fine print.

That marketing stuff gets old! I think a company might do real good by being honest and not trying to trick the customer. I bet there's some people that would by a product just because the people were being honest about it.

When I was a kid, I saved up for the X-Ray glasses. Once they came, I was soooo disappointed! So I went back to the magazine and read the fine print. Stupid X-Ray glasses. I wonder how many people spent money on those glasses thinking they were real. I bet the company doesn't even exist anymore. People probably got smart and just stopped sending them cash for a fake product.

[rhomanski]

Re: Custom build for around 2,000$.

Spork... them x-ray specs have been in comic books since I was a kid. Apparently there is an unending supply of kids that will buy them. When I asked my parents what they thought in 1964, they snorted in derision. Broke my heart when they told me the truth. That was just about the time I found out about Santa Claus and all the others. My whole world fell apart. Life's never been the same since. I wouldn't say they don't exist. They'll be with us till the end.

On audio. in the seventies they had to tell the truth and test their equipment the same as everyone else. Reagan and his deregulation killed that and the lies have flowed like water ever since. I never thought Reagan was all that great. Deregulation, leaving guys to die in Beirut, letting Bush run the country, he was a changed man after he got shot. Makes you wonder if he was replaced with a look alike and he actually died, he changed so much. People talk about what he did for the economy, didn't help me any. All he helped was wall street and the banks. They loved him, not the regular people.

[dragos2009]

Re: Custom build for around 2,000$.

i would suggest to put a gtx 960 in the system to be well balanced

[Spork Schivago]

Re: Custom build for around 2,000$.

i would suggest to put a gtx 960 in the system to be well balanced

Thanks for the suggestion Dragos2009. Wouldn't the GTX 960 be a bit overkill though? Wouldn't most of the work she be doing be handled by the CPU and not the video card / GPU? Would she actually benefit from a GTX 960?

I agree, it'd probably make the system more well balanced, but would it actually be beneficial at all...what do you think?

[rhomanski]

Re: Custom build for around 2,000$.

There's no replacement for displacement. Go big or go home. If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch. Ooohrah. Get the picture?

[junktv]

Re: Custom build for around 2,000$.

Avoid asus. They make asrock also. They put the FU in customer relations.

[Spork Schivago]

Re: Custom build for around 2,000$.

Avoid asus. They make asrock also. They put the FU in customer relations.

Is this true? Can anyone confirm this?

I thought originally ASRock was made by ASUSTek. They were trying to corner the low-quality market I thought. But then as time went on, they split off and the parent company became Pegatron and now they actually make enthusist quality boards in compentition with Asus..

I understand Pegatron makes motherboards for ASUS, among many other clients, but that doesn't make them connected anymore I wouldn't think.

Essentially, is this motherboard I picked really garbage? Was the research I did on it not good enough? I got a bad memory but I thought I spend a good amount of time research boards and felt that was the best bang for it's buck at the time, for what she wanted.

[dmill89]

Re: Custom build for around 2,000$.

Is this true? Can anyone confirm this?

I thought originally ASRock was made by ASUSTek. They were trying to corner the low-quality market I thought. But then as time went on, they split off and the parent company became Pegatron and now they actually make enthusist quality boards in compentition with Asus..

I understand Pegatron makes motherboards for ASUS, among many other clients, but that doesn't make them connected anymore I wouldn't think.

Essentially, is this motherboard I picked really garbage? Was the research I did on it not good enough? I got a bad memory but I thought I spend a good amount of time research boards and felt that was the best bang for it's buck at the time, for what she wanted.

From a corporate perspective it is a bit complex. AsRock was spun-off from ASUS in 2002 and had an IPO in 2007, but then Acquired by Pegatron in 2010, and Pegatron is a subsidiary of ASUS (basically ASUS's manufacturing arm), so in effect AsRock is a subsidiary of a subsidiary of ASUS.

I don't think AsRock is particularly terrible, though I prefer Gigabyte and MSI (and Supermicro and Tyan if you prefer their workstation oriented feature sets) over ASUS/AsRock, especially for that kind of money. Overall it largely comes down to preference. There are certainly plenty of horror stories with ASUS's support (I've personally never had to deal with ASUS's support though, I guess I've been "lucky" and never had an ASUS, or any non-OE motherboard fail), AsRock being at least officially a separate subsidiary would likely have its own support, hard to say if it is better, worse, or the same as ASUS itself.

[Spork Schivago]

Re: Custom build for around 2,000$.

From a corporate perspective it is a bit complex. AsRock was spun-off from ASUS in 2002 and had an IPO in 2007, but then Acquired by Pegatron in 2010, and Pegatron is a subsidiary of ASUS (basically ASUS's manufacturing arm), so in effect AsRock is a subsidiary of a subsidiary of ASUS.

I don't think AsRock is particularly terrible, though I prefer Gigabyte and MSI (and Supermicro and Tyan if you prefer their workstation oriented feature sets) over ASUS/AsRock, especially for that kind of money. Overall it largely comes down to preference. There are certainly plenty of horror stories with ASUS's support (I've personally never had to deal with ASUS's support though, I guess I've been "lucky" and never had an ASUS, or any non-OE motherboard fail), AsRock being at least officially a separate subsidiary would likely have its own support, hard to say if it is better, worse, or the same as ASUS itself.

Thanks. If you have an Asus product that doesn't fail, they're pretty good, at least the ones I used to own. Now days, I think they've gone a bit down hill. I mean, the ones I've been seeing lapop wise at least are really low end POS's. When I dealt with them personally, great tech support. Level 1 too, they didn't have to transfer me to level 2 or whatever it is. They were able to fix my problem right away, both times. My wife, on the other hand, she had a not so nice encounter with their tech support so I'd like to avoid giving them money if I could.

I knew ASRock was tied in with Asus when they started out, making real cheap boards. My understanding was they split though and now the money ASRock makes, it doesn't go to Asus and vice-versa.

I started to like Gigabyte. The older stuff I got seems okay. From what I was reading, ASRock had turned things around so I thought I'd give them a shot again. Maybe I should rethink it a bit.

[ChaosLegionnaire]

Re: Custom build for around 2,000$.

the nda and gag order for broadwell-e reviews has just been lifted as of typing this. a couple of reviews for broadwell-e are just out.

Tom's Hardware: Broadwell-E: Intel Core i7-6950X, 6900K, 6850K & 6800K Review
Anandtech: The Intel Broadwell-E Review: Core i7-6950X, i7-6900K, i7-6850K and i7-6800K Tested

[rhomanski]

Re: Custom build for around 2,000$.

I just got an email for a 10 core 2011 v3. It was like $1800 for it. Newegg has them.