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    HP ZBook 15v G5 - Weird behaviour/issue related to USB-C/TBT

    Hello community,

    This will be the device of your nightmares. I can't count how many hours I spend to fix it, but it was already way to much...

    However, I really hope for some insight from experience because I have this nice HP ZBook 15v G5 here which came in completely dead, even +VREG3 not working although it wasn't shorted. Previous repair attempt by a somehow professional repair shop, since I noticed action around the controller responsible for +3VALW and +VREG3 without it making worse. Way later I noticed the PCH was replaced and even later I realized +3VALW was shorted with +VCC_RTC through shorted solder balls underneath the PCH resulting in voltage "bleeding" from +VREG3 even into +3VALW.

    Long story short: I have replaced the PCH again and the short between the power rails went away. Unfortunately it still didn't really powered on, just a small try, 3V and 5V Alw coil present for a short while, then dead, no response from power button because it wasn't even 3.3V on it.

    However, actually I did found even two workarounds to power it on, full post, and loading Windows.

    1. Injecting voltage into the ON/OFF# rail responsible for the power button

    2. Removing the PD-Controller, a TPS65987SCE. It is even enough to cut the +VREG3 from this controller to get the board working and let it respond to the power button.

    However there are issues left when I apply the workarounds:

    - USB-C not working at all
    - a exclamation mark in Windows Device Manager, talking about "UCM-UCSI ACPI DEVICE" with Error 43
    - it does need very long to boot/to show picture. At least 30-40 seconds when it is connected to the charger/battery and even minutes when where was removed all power before.

    What I did in addition was to rule out a firmware issue by messing with the HP files and sourcing the TBT firmware dump and of course to reprogram it with external prigrammer. Also I have replaced the TPS65987SCE and reballed the Thunderbolt Controller, a JHL6340, without any progress. It doesn't even boot without the TBT Controller present.

    I do not share any measurements or pictures at this point since there exists even hundreds. Some maybe related, some maybe not. What I can say is, I checked the suspects in detail and I didn't found anything obvious around the TPS65987SCE and the JHL6340 regarding voltages and resistances. So just ask if something would be important to know and I'll share.

    At this point I have only one hope left, to replace the JHL6340, but I'm of course open for any suggestion.

    Thanks in advance.
    FairRepair on YouTube

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    Re: HP ZBook 15v G5 - Weird behaviour/issue related to USB-C/TBT

    I have a useful update on this one. Found out the BIOS was partial corrupted and the main for reason for

    a) USB-C not working at all and
    b) long boot time

    So what was left was to find out the reason why I still have to inject 3.3V into the power button or to remove the TPS IC.

    However, I found the answer at PQ82 and PQ83 (bot 2N7002K) which are able to pull the power button rail low. The origin is actually pin 15 (not counting the corners) of the TPS65987SCE which draws around 0.4Amps when injecting 2V there.

    It is likely a GPIO pin and at this point I'm pretty sure it has something to to with the internal programming of this chip.

    As a workaround I have lift Pin2 of PQ83 but maybe someone here has a idea how

    a) to Programm this controller and
    b) how to source the firmware

    Thanks
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      Re: HP ZBook 15v G5 - Weird behaviour/issue related to USB-C/TBT

      See here, you should be able to flash the tbt firmware from the HP noted downloads. Provided you can see the device in your device manager.

      https://support.hp.com/ro-en/document/c06561313

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