Re: Samxon recap
New Enermax's are too much, but i did find this:
[url]http://www.trademe.co.nz/Computers/Components/Cases-power-supplies/Power-supplies/auction-67863153.htm[/url]
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Re: Samxon recap
Thanks for the replies,
Yeah, i think thats what ill do. But im still stuck with what to replace it with. No signs of 'Fortron' here, available PSU brands in the price range im looking at are:
Hyena (again?), iCute, Excel, Colorsit...
Theyre probably all the same thing...
Would it really be that bad getting one of those? Do they suck out of the box? There is a 350W Hyena, the same model number as the broken one, with a 2 year warranty...
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Ok, so get rid of the PSU.
The thing is i dont really want to spend too much getting this system going, so that rules out a branded PSU. Would an unbranded cheap psu do the job? At least for a while?
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Re: Samxon recap
Its a 'Hyena LC-A350ATX' if that means anything.
To clarify, this problem existed long before i replaced the caps, i had hoped it was due to the bad ones, but obviously not.
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Samxon recap
Just want to thank 'Big Pope' for the caps he sent me. I have successfully recapped a motherboard and PSU, and although I haven't tested the MB yet, the PSU runs.
I just have some questions:
I replaced a handful of caps on a rebranded Deer PSU, as although it didn't show any major problems before hand, the caps were bulging. I had hoped this replacement would have fixed an issue I did notice, namely, a multimeter test showed only ~ -10.5v on the -12v rail. Even at this level, it had still powered a system fine for a long time.
The MB I did recap was...
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Re: Recap dilemma
Well, i didnt look very hard. Seems RS do have 2200/10mm (Rubycon LZ series), but theyre only 6.3 volt and are still expensive at about NZ$2 each, and i need 10...
Ive been thinking about it, and have done the sums, i just dont think i can justify spending ~NZ$80 on all these capacitors.
Damn, back to square one...
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Re: Recap dilemma
Yeah, i cant stand to throw it away, ill probably keep store it somewhere and try again in a year or so, but i think ill go ahead and replace the rest.
Thanks for everyones help.
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I did look at both Jaycar and Radiospares but neither seem to have the 10mm low ESR 2200uF's and there's no room on the Soltek for 12.5's as you can see in the photo.
But yeah, Farnell... I just emailed them and found out shipping will be almost a third of the total price. I think they send them from your side of the Tasman. I wouldnt mind the price if i knew it was a sure thing, but im still not 100% sure i wont stuff up installing them.
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Re: Recap dilemma
Not quite, its the SL-75DRV2:
I have no problem replacing the PSU caps if that will help, especially since there are only about 4 that need it:
Its all the other things I wasn't sure of. (BTW, i had a better look, i think the PSU caps are 'Rulycon'...)
Thanks for the advice, I think that's what ill do, replace the caps in the PSU, GeForces, and the Albatron (the Soltek needs 10x 2200uF/10mm, which are expensive here).
These are the ones I've found, I used the 'List of...
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Seems like a big effort with fixing the PSU, and most of those steps don't mean anything to me...
I still have one of the two PSUs, it has worked fine for the last 4 years, but recently, before I retired the system completely, there were strange problems, either due to it, the mb, or the video card. Sometimes the system wouldn't boot, it would just give some strange bios beeps, (I was never able to determine what they corresponded to), and nothing would be displayed on screen, which lead me to believe it was the video card responsible.
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Recap dilemma
I'm hoping some one can offer me some advice with my capacitor dilemma.
I've got a few pc components lying around with leaking/bulging caps. I have previously looked into replacing them to save some of the parts, but after availability and cost issues I gave up. Now I have some free time and I pulled them back out again, I have:
2 socket A motherboards (Soltek/Albatron)
Geforce 2 and 4 videocards (Leadtek)
All the capacitors in question are GSC.
The problem I'm facing is that I get the feeling that the motherboards failed, in part...
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Re: I know theyre bad, but are they the cause?
Ok, im back up and running!
Temperatures are a bit on the high side, the system sits at around 57*C, the heatsink is warm to the touch, but i dont really mind anymore, im just glad its running.
I will probably still recap the MB/GFX eventually, as they would still be of some use running.
Although the post did go off on a bit of a tangent, thanks to all, all the same.
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Re: I know theyre bad, but are they the cause?
Nevermind,
I couldnt wait, so went ahead, i now realise there is only one way to remove the hsf anyway.
Its off, the chip looks fine, one thing though, two of the rubber pads are looking a bit squished (understandable, these are the two which had all the pressure), is this going to be a problem?
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Re: I know theyre bad, but are they the cause?
Ok, just went out and got a new MB, with integrated VGA, so that should solve both problems. I also got some AS5 and, although the "helpful" sales man who sold these to me suggested i use water to clean off the old thermal paste, i went and got some 100% pure isopropyl alcohol from the chemist.
Now i just need to redo the CPU. Anyone have any tips on how to remove the heatsink so as not to damage the chip? Im thinking take off the clip on the right side first (the one above where the HS is resting on the plastic...
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Re: I know theyre bad, but are they the cause?
Thanks for the comprehensive guide!
I had some idea of what to do, but that will make a good reference.
I think I will still stick to doing the caps first though, it's not my pc so if I did damage the processor…
As I said before, time is a bit of an issue (this was a server system, and needs to be back up and running ASAP), so if replacing the caps doesn't work out I will probably just end up buying a new MB (probably with integrated graphics) so I will have to redo the CPU then anyway.
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Re: I know theyre bad, but are they the cause?
As you predicted, they are near the CPU surrounded by MOSFETs and toroid inductors
Haven't touched the CPU yet (im afraid to), I think I may leave it, it is at least partially working (the heatsink), it does get reasonably warm, ill deal with the caps first, if there are still problems ill know where to look next.
So you think 6.3v will be sufficient? Changing the spec worries me a bit.
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Re: I know theyre bad, but are they the cause?
I did have a heat problem, ~70*C, and constant crashing. But after cleaning the dust out from the heatsink it went back to safe 40/50*C temps.
You think it would just be better to leave it? It is an Athlon XP, so the die is very vulnerable the way it sticks out, you can see the whole chip is slanted, that is, there is a lot more pressure seating the pins on the left side than the right.
Thanks for the tips davmax, how long did it take for delivery from Computek?
I'm starting to think the 12.5mm 10v...
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