Re: Can a Cap be bad and not look like it?
I forgot to mention, this may help, at first when problems started it was turning on but not booting up all the way to the desk top, it would not go past the count down, it was throwing out errors, like system failure, this and that, I'm sorry that I didn't pay attention to more of what them errors were, so I would have to keep rebooting and it would work great for a while, then at times the unit would shut down like the software was messed up bad.... then, I started to get that stone dead at "turn on", so I replaced the power...
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Re: Can a Cap be bad and not look like it?
I'll put my old 1.8 CPU 939 socket back in, because about 4 or 5 months ago I bought a used 2.4... good point there, thats the only thing I didn't try yet.
It will take a while because its all apart right now and the boards out....Leave a comment:
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Re: Can a Cap be bad and not look like it?
I by pass the turn on switch as well as checked it, everything checked out good.
Like I mentioned I have 3 good brand new power units I hooked up with no help.
I really feel like I covered all corners leading me to the mobo being the problem, I say mobo because I think the power unit gives a voltage signal to the mobo, then in turn other things kick in and start to work, like CPU fan, power unit fans turn, etc.... but I dont get any of that.Leave a comment:
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Re: Can a Cap be bad and not look like it?
yeah, complelety stone cold dead, like not plugged in...Leave a comment:
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Re: Can a Cap be bad and not look like it?
Let me ask this about ram, even if it was bad ram would I still get a responce as if its not plugged in? I thought with bad ram I'd at least hear beeps, or at least the power unit would come on? this is the first time I'm getting a unit acting like its not plugged in and I've tried a few other working power units. humm??Leave a comment:
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Re: Can a Cap be bad and not look like it?
I'm sorry for coming across as a moron, let me tell you a little about me, I'm sometimes a little slow, but I'm am not retarded, I've been thru a liver transplant because of Wilsons Disease, I use to work in the insurance industries for many years, then I went into a coma because Wilsons Disease grabbed hold, etc... blah blah... So at times my meds I take for my back slow me down, this is why there are different posts all over the place...lol...
and the sometimes dumb questions..lol..
But at least I still have all my...Leave a comment:
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Re: Can a Cap be bad and not look like it?
Okay, here is some info, plus I understand what was said about different readings with the same cap, this is all great stuff I'm learning, thank you very much.
Please let me know what other info you would like to know, like do you want the specs on all the rest of the other caps? like their size, etc...
The mobo is a MSI (MS7093) also it says N1996 near the memory, the chip set is ATI IPX 400.... 939 socket with a 2.4 CPU....Leave a comment:
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Sorry, I'm doing 6 things at once here and I'm forgetting what I did, plus would you believe I never sent pictures to a forum before.. so I need to learn how to do that now.
Give me a moment, I'm trying this picture thing... thanks......
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Re: How are Caps Checked? by ohlm meter?
I hope I know how to send these pictures, if they come thru here are a few pictures of the caps I suspect might be going bad, I say this because there are 8 of this one type of cap, and 6 out of 8 caps I get all different ohm meter reading variations, there are only the two that give the same ohm number.
But of course nothing is true until I get my ESR meter. Its actually pretty stupid for me to figure it this way being I'm unconscious to all of this.
I did go thru a lot of diagnosing as far as the desk top failing,...Last edited by joeeye; 04-06-2007, 05:34 PM.Leave a comment:
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Re: How are Caps Checked? by ohlm meter?
Let me ask this, the computer I'm working on was intermittently working, then it got to the point where it just wouldn't boot up any more. everything checked out to the mobo being no good.
Figuring there are bad caps, and with not being able to see any that went bad, my question is can you make an assumption what reading will the bad cap(s) will read?
I know you mentioned the numbers above, but when you say anything on the board that measures .10 ohm is that with an intermitten problem?...Leave a comment:
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Re: How are Caps Checked? by ohlm meter?
I'm just chasing my tail here with my ohm meters, I figured since I didn't have the ESR meter yet I'd try my ohm meters to see what the readings would be.
I don't know what meter I should get, I don't want to get a cheap meter where I find myself saying I should have gotten a better meter, also no need for me to get an over kill.
thank you everyone...Leave a comment:
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Re: How are Caps Checked? by ohlm meter?
Sorry if I'm posting twice, I thought I was to get an emails...
I have two ohm meters... one is typical simple.
The other one is an old analog needle with a lot more sensitive ohm scale settings than a typical ohm meter, it has 1, 10, 100, 1000.
It's the 1000 scale that lets me check spark plug wires because of what they are made of (carbon) any other meter didn't do the job.
I think this will work, I'll have to dig it up and make sure it still works.
And yes willawake...Leave a comment:
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Re: Can a Cap be bad and not look like it?
Thank you my friend, you don't know how much I appreciate appreciate this help very much.
I'm going to look into what you mentioned, the Techniques, and Reviews" forum section for more info.
I want to buy the ESR meter as well, I just have a simple meter that does DC V, AC V, Diode, Ohm, DCmA.
I thought I seen a section that sold items??
best wishes, JoeLeave a comment:
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Re: Can a Cap be bad and not look like it?
There are many caps of all sizes and many of the same type, each group that are all the same kind of cap all measured the same reading with an olhm meter.
But there are 8 caps which are the KZE 6.3 v 1000uF, there are something like 4 of them out of the 8 that read the same resistance, and the rest of the other 4 have all different numbers of resistance. I feel like these few caps I found are not doing well.
Any help is welcome...Leave a comment:
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Can a Cap be bad and not look like it?
Hi everybody glad to be here, first time posting... If I may can someone shed some light on what I have going on?
I diagnosed my problem to the motherboard, its an MSI MS-7093 Ver.1.0
I don't know much about caps, but I really would like to start learning so I'm happy I found this forum. I'm just a home enthusiast who has more running and non-running computers one should have in a small home.
This is the first mobo I came across that I don't see the caps are obviously blown or bad. everything points to the board is the problem.
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I like it, its a good way to see if there is anything leaking from the bottom.....
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How are Caps Checked? by ohlm meter?
How are caps checked? I never ventured this far and can use a little push what to do.
I have a MSI 939 motherboard thats for a desktop computer that was intermittenly working to not working.
Everything points to the mobo, a fast look at the board seems okay, so I took readings of all the caps on the whole motherboard, all the same kind of caps read all the same olhm, except for this one particular set of matching caps, there are about 7 of these matching caps and only two of them read the same ohlm, the rest are quite a bit different, and none match.
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Re: MSI MS-6312 Used in Gateway Flex System - Bad Capacitors
Hi everybody, I just joined, I don't want to high jack this post, so if this goes anywheres I'll post a new one to talk about it, but I did want to say to post this one time, I'm happy I ran across this forum and found all these posts here about this mobo, I have the same motherboard that many have posted about, but there is something else that popped on my board rather than the caps, I thought this would peak an interest with some people.
I found a very tiny small chip that has cracked open, like it popped,...Last edited by joeeye; 04-05-2007, 02:28 AM.Leave a comment:
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