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Aetherone replied to Blast from the past #2: MSI 694D-Pro A ver:1.0

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02-11-2019, 01:20 AM
Re: Blast from the past #2: MSI 694D-Pro A ver:1.0

Yep. Although I've never seen one quite so badly cooked before. The ring around the edge exposed to air was burnt brown!

Decapped, fluxed and cooked. No real change to the failure
Not a FCPGA but still has plenty of BGA solder balls to go wrong.

Wayyyyy back in the day when GF4 were new and hot my shiny new Asus TI4600 lasted about three weeks with its stock sink before I customized a P3-1Ghz sink to go on it....

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Aetherone replied to Blast from the past #2: MSI 694D-Pro A ver:1.0

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02-08-2019, 10:26 PM
Re: Blast from the past #2: MSI 694D-Pro A ver:1.0

I've got a beautiful all-copper Zalman heatpipe flower tucked away but first I need a card that's not already cooked to death ...

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Aetherone replied to Blast from the past #2: MSI 694D-Pro A ver:1.0

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02-08-2019, 08:05 PM
Re: Blast from the past #2: MSI 694D-Pro A ver:1.0

Well it's mostly so it matches the dual-DVI Quadro NVS280 PCI that's currently driving its video. Quad head FTW!

Shipping to Australia is proving a bit of a sore point though. Since this project has been 18 years in the making, I might just put it on the backburner and keep an eye on ebay for a while.

Yup, cooked to death. The teeny HSF was entirely lined with felt and the thermal paste had a ring of badly cooked & oxidised carrier wax baked to it....

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Aetherone replied to Blast from the past #2: MSI 694D-Pro A ver:1.0

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02-08-2019, 06:36 PM
Re: Blast from the past #2: MSI 694D-Pro A ver:1.0

IT LIVES!

Well, what a change a new set of caps makes. She seems to be ripping (lol) along with no issues so far. Even the front USB header is working again.

All I need now is to find a suitable AGP card and its complete!

I've love to find a dual-DVI quadro card (workstation GPU for a workstation board right?!), preferably one that works better than the Quadro4 900XGL now sitting in my e-waste recycling box.

Also love to find a PCI SATA/SAS raid card to drive an old SSD. Not exactly...

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Aetherone replied to Whoops, need to recap an Asus GTX275

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01-26-2019, 01:36 AM
Re: Whoops, need to recap an Asus GTX275

If it didn't the first time around, it sure did the second.

Same problem persists - no display and prevents a system POSTing correctly if its a primary card. If its a secondary the system will POST & load windows, but card comes up in GPUz as negotiating an 8x PCIe1 link instead of a 16x PCIe2.

Yep, did that. No change to the failure mode.

Not only does it get typically warm, it still has fan control. Just no display output and hangs POST.

First thing...

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Aetherone replied to Blast from the past: Asus A8N32-SLI (Socket 939 AMD glory days)

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01-19-2019, 06:27 PM
Re: Blast from the past: Asus A8N32-SLI (Socket 939 AMD glory days)

The real killer for the Core2 gear was it's thermal and power advantage, plus the massive overclocks you could pull with such headroom inside the severely limited cooling of the time.

When I first built mine way back in the day it had just one of those. Just so happens that I have a BNIB 7900GTX stashed away for this, although I reckon I upgraded it to SLI 275's before finally jumping ship to Core2 gear.
The GTX770's are just because I happen to have two of them laying about...

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Aetherone replied to Blast from the past #2: MSI 694D-Pro A ver:1.0

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01-16-2019, 07:51 AM
Re: Blast from the past #2: MSI 694D-Pro A ver:1.0

Fly leads attached, -3.28v on that one. Topcat was right, no idea why mine had not vented with years of accumulated runtime. No adjacent PCI cards perhaps?
That one will get flipped around in the morning. I presume a few minutes of reverse polarity runtime will not have significantly affected the cap?

I also tacked fly leads to EC6 pins which gave 200 millivolts???
I was expecting a bit more or am I barking up the wrong tree without an oscilloscope?...

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Aetherone replied to Blast from the past: Asus A8N32-SLI (Socket 939 AMD glory days)

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01-16-2019, 03:39 AM
Re: Blast from the past: Asus A8N32-SLI (Socket 939 AMD glory days)

Unexpected hiccup. NF4SLI is 2005ish? GTX770's are 2013ish? Seems that NV have dropped support for SLI'ing them on such an old platform, at least under XP x64. Time to find that Win7 disc and see if anyone knows when NF4 is/was dropped from the SLI approved listings.

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Aetherone replied to Blast from the past: Asus A8N32-SLI (Socket 939 AMD glory days)

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01-15-2019, 09:48 PM
Re: Blast from the past: Asus A8N32-SLI (Socket 939 AMD glory days)

Pretty sure it's claimed one of the matching pair of GTX275's I had for this build but yes, its not always bumpgate.

Success #6: both onboard ethernet NICs link and pass traffic at 1Gbps (well, most of 1G, I'm CPU limited).

Running benchies now with the first GTX770. Gah, I'm horribly CPU limited. Less than half the score this card gets in its hexacore 1366 Xeon @ 4.6Ghz normal home :p...

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Aetherone started a topic Blast from the past #2: MSI 694D-Pro A ver:1.0

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01-15-2019, 10:32 AM
Blast from the past #2: MSI 694D-Pro A ver:1.0

With the success of my Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe recap project, I'm turning my attention to the other benchmark board in my history - the venerable MSI 694D-Pro A.

Wayyyyyy back in the day, I paired one of these (in protoype orange PCB no less) with a pair of 366 Celerons for a world of fun. That board was flawless from day #1 (well, aside from the usual VIA issues with sound cards and Promise getting narky about additional HDD controllers). Wish I'd never sold it off.

The current board is one of a hundred examples from a teaching college near the IT shop I used...

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Aetherone replied to Blast from the past: Asus A8N32-SLI (Socket 939 AMD glory days)

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01-15-2019, 08:03 AM
Re: Blast from the past: Asus A8N32-SLI (Socket 939 AMD glory days)

Success #1: no smoke!
Success #2: It posts. No dramas. Opteron 175 and 4x1GB DDR400 all recognised fine. Memtests fine.
Success #3: two cards, a 640 and a 610 (both bus powered) are recognised and negotiate x16 lanes each.
Success #4: Runs furmark on the 640 all night long.
Failure #1: Socket 939 chips don't support anything newer than Win 8.0.
Success #5: found my Windows XP x64 deployment image, phew!
Failure #2: 3Dmark06 on graphics looping as my favourite 3D stress test locks...

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Aetherone replied to Whoops, need to recap an Asus GTX275

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01-15-2019, 06:46 AM
Re: Whoops, need to recap an Asus GTX275

Bugger, despite a good baking and fresh load of caps the card's behavior has not changed. One to add to the e-waste pile methinks ... after I recover the only slightly used solid caps!

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Aetherone replied to Whoops, need to recap an Asus GTX275

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01-01-2019, 06:19 AM
Re: Whoops, need to recap an Asus GTX275

Whoops, yeah good catch!

For three of them, I'll be paying $15 postage to get from anywhere else so I'll wear it. Plus I've not found another supplier who has all the different caps I want (in the tiny quantities I want too!).
Nichicon are only $0.50 each ... in lots of 500

Then I'm hoping this is the right choice [url=https://au.element14.com/panasonic/16sepc270mx/cap-270-f-16v-20/dp/2354609]Panny OS-CON SEPC 270uf, 16v, 8mm x 12mm x 3.5mm leads[/url]. A bargain at $1.60 each!
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Aetherone replied to Blast from the past: Asus A8N32-SLI (Socket 939 AMD glory days)

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01-01-2019, 05:59 AM
Re: Blast from the past: Asus A8N32-SLI (Socket 939 AMD glory days)

Ja, the extra PCIe switch chip adds something like 25w over a standard NF4 set. The A8N-SLI Premium was probably the sweet spot board if you could live with 8x8.

I've got several BNIB of the special blower fans Asus made to fit their cooling system; although I'm planning on modding a 240mm AIO to fit the 939 bolt holes and mounting a 120mm over the block/VRM area to push air around there. The first gen (2000) Lian-Li PC-60 its going in has been modded to have two 80mm exhausts...

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Aetherone replied to Blast from the past: Asus A8N32-SLI (Socket 939 AMD glory days)

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12-31-2018, 09:07 PM
Re: Blast from the past: Asus A8N32-SLI (Socket 939 AMD glory days)

Thanks guys, I appreciate the feedback. Looks like element14 has everything I need to get this baby recapped.

Thanks for the info, I'd been debating about polymodding it but have been head-scratching over the right values and thinking it falls into the "too hard" basket.

I've got an original Corsair HX620 tucked away for it already. (y) If I recall correctly, 105 degree all-japanese caps was their big selling point way back when. The 5 year warranty was simply...

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Aetherone started a topic Whoops, need to recap an Asus GTX275

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12-31-2018, 09:05 PM
Whoops, need to recap an Asus GTX275

So, I had a dead-ish Asus GTX275. Since I want to match it with its identical brother for some retro SLI fun, I decided to give it a baking and see if that gets it working again.
Turns out the solid caps onboard were not appreciative of 220*C
Yeah, I should have been not-lazy and desoldered them first but I was lazy

There's only 9 in total on the board with four visibly failed. I'm working under the assumption that they'll all be sick.

3x marked

8mm x 12mm. Presumably +12v PCIe power input filters. I'm guessing 270uf and...

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Aetherone replied to Blast from the past: Asus A8N32-SLI (Socket 939 AMD glory days)

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12-24-2018, 04:47 PM
Re: Blast from the past: Asus A8N32-SLI (Socket 939 AMD glory days)

Just trawling around e14 this morning (yes it Christmas morning but I live with severe depression and this is much better than googling noose tying).
Looks like they stock various Rubycon, Nichicon, Panasonic & others. Reasons to pick between each? Pannys seem quite expensive, but they rate much higher runtimes at temperature. Rubys do too, but they're not all available in the right sizes.
Nichicons are pretty cheap. Pros? Cons?

16v 1000uf (8mm x 20mm)

Thinking Rubycon...

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Aetherone started a topic Blast from the past: Asus A8N32-SLI (Socket 939 AMD glory days)

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12-23-2018, 11:49 PM
Blast from the past: Asus A8N32-SLI (Socket 939 AMD glory days)

Rebuilding & resurrecting my first dual-core system

The board itself seems to be in good condition, from testing it's had no troubles with an overclocked Opteron 175 and 4x 1GB DIMMs in it.
The problem is, the PCIe slots don't work. Given the numbers of sad looking caps around the slots, this isn't surprising (one of the caps started smoking in the first testing POST!).

Runs fine with a PCI video card which is how I clocked the CPUs and tested it.
The caps around the CPU socket are all sealed jobbies, so I'm planning on leaving those alone and just...

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Hello from down under!

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