Re: Xbox 360 caps keep failing
I’ve honestly been considering picking up an opus motherboard and doing a replacement as well. Maybe just keeping my original MB and doing the swap like Microsoft would have done anyway. I know the opus MB are an improvement over the original but I know they aren’t bullet proof. And they are also kind of rare I believe. Considering I could swap MB more cheaply then getting the console repaired, and possibly getting continued reliability with an improved revision that fits in the original chassis, I may decide to look into this option.
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Re: Xbox 360 caps keep failing
Ok I guess I can only just use it as is I suppose. I’m not even sure where I could get it reballed anyway. I’m also assuming that the lead free to leaded conversion of the solder doesn’t help any either? I’ve heard that the Pb free failed easier or something. But thanks for all the responses and help on here. I really have learned a lot and I understand that the original 360s REALLY are as unreliable as they were fabled to be. I really believed I could beat the odds though. I’ve always had a fascination with the original...
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And if it was a bga issue wouldn’t the console not work at all? Normally that would brick the system and it wouldn’t do anything but that is the strange thing... it works after a few power cycles. I just wish I could test with a meter somehow and check the components for a short or something. But if it IS the gpu bga would it be advisable to get it reballed?
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That could be, but why did it suddenly get worse when I changed the capacitors? That’s what’s hard to understand
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Another side note I waited about 3hrs and turned it on again and it hung on the boot again, and then on the 2nd attempt it gave me 1red light E74 error 1022. On the 3rd try the console fired right up and worked perfectly. Hope that helps too
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Ok I just played gears of war on it for about 25 or so min and felt around on all of the components after I was done. Nothing felt overly warm or hot besides the heatsinks (obviously). A few of the low voltage capacitors I put in on the cpu vrm felt a little warm, but nothing significant. Is there a possibility the xbox didn’t like the polymer capacitors I put in? I’m really at a loss here. I just don’t understand how this thing could possibly be giving me grief even after I changed everything
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So it sounds like maybe a cold solder joint under the gpu or cpu somewhere? I wonder why the problem became more apparent after I changed the capacitors? And if one of the coils or mosfets is hot I should just “feel” for one then? I should also mention that after looking into my old power supply I did find a cap that was leaking but not bulged. It’s in a tight spot so I couldn’t tell what it was. I’m considering removing it and seeing if I can find a replacement. All 6 other caps looked ok though.
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It seems like now the problem is worse/more frequent then it was before. Now it takes several tries to fire up. But once the console is on, it works fine and if you turn it back off and back on after it had booted it will work every time. But if you leave it be for a few hours or overnight the problem comes back. I think by changing the caps i have changed the characteristic of the problem without solving it completely. I just wish I knew what I could look for or test something that would cause it to do this. Maybe one of the mosfets was damaged by...
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I have a small fan that I added that I soldered to the 12v and ground spot of the power plug on the underside of the board. Is it possible that it draws too much power on the first startup and it causes the console to hang?
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Could one of the MOSFET be a problem?
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I installed a thermalright tr360 heatsink and a fan in front of the cpu and some thermal pads for the ram. I won’t really use this console much, just as a cool collectors item. I’m really bummed that I couldn’t resolve the issue however. I guess I’ll just have to power it on twice every time and hope I’m not damaging anything. What are the odds that both power supplies that I’m using could have an issue though? I can’t really see what else could cause this problem on the console.
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Ok I have managed to replace and polymod all of the capacitors that we’re reccomended. I put everything back together and tried powering it on. The first attempt the fans came on and the center green power light came on but the console did not boot. I turned it off, waited a moment, and tried again. The second attempt was a success! I played a game for a few min and tested all components and it seemed to work fine. I’m hoping that the failed first attempt was due to the fact that none of the new caps had a charge and it hung up the first...
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I partially disassembled the old PS to see the caps and the ones I could spot looked ok... I would like to take it apart further though just to be sure. Has anyone taken apart an old 203w power supply that knows the proper steps? There seems to be several layers of metal shielding like momaka mentioned. I'm guessinf I need to desolder those points to get the top half of the power supply case to come off so I can see the entire board.
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What's strange is I had another 203w power supply to compare and they both gave me the same symptoms leading me to believe the console was the main fault. It had problems starting on both of them, and one of the supply's was used regularly and the one that came with the box was never used.
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Excellent! I'll replace those while I have everything opened up
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I have replaced all gpu and cpu vrm low with polymer caps. I now want to Change ALL the kzj 16v 1500uf caps as well. can I use the other 16v caps you recommended? Here are the locations:
3 in front of power plug
C9B1
C9C1
C9C4
2 behind GPU vrm in front of fans
C6B3
C7B3
2 to the right of the CPU behind the cpu low vrm
C9D2
C9E3
And 2 in front of CPU
C6F3
C7F2
Thanks
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Wow I am learning quite a lot in this venture. I'm glad there are forums like this with people like you that are willing to share their knowledge and make life easier for people. Thank you very much
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Just curious how you determines these spacific replacements as I'm trying to learn more on polymer replacements. Does it matter that the voltage and the uf rating is lower? Thanks...
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Seems logical. I am unaware of the previous storage conditions. And yes I bought the “Panasonic FJ series” off eBay. Im hoping that is the source of the problem and I can change those out with the polymers I ordered. I saw someone else on youtube with almost the exact same issues I had. [url]https://youtu.be/45g9NmhrMbE[/url]Re: Xbox 360 caps keep failing<br />...d I can change
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