Re: Are laptops affected by plague? How to identify?
Thanks for that, I'll have to try that, since none of the four of five shops have.
After 3 or 4 weeks, I got it back last night from Shop B, who said it was a hard-disk problem. They knew this because the Invetec screen comes on when the harddisk is in. But when taking the harddisk out, that message kept reappearing again, which I guess is more normal.
What I don't get is that I was getting that message previously when the diskdrive was in. Does that mean it was okay then? At one time, I thought...
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Re: Are laptops affected by plague? How to identify?
I took it to shop B today (who originally thought OS system is bad) and tried to explain the nVidia chip problem, along with other suggestions on this board (he also didn't know ubuntu or xubuntu, but knew linux and USB stick). He seemed unaware of this nVidia problem being prevalent, but told me they had nVidia chips to replace with.
Reading your post again, you said it isn't possible to replace? So they would have to solder...but even then, you thought that couldn't quite solve the problem, right? I'm...Leave a comment:
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HP had told me before they can't order or find a motherboard because they stopped making those parts. They simply told me it was too old and to buy a new one. Which always irked me, because I just don't think five years is too old to fix anything, especially in this day and age....Leave a comment:
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Wouldn't HP Center know about this? Why didn't they inform me of this after taking it there several times and telling them I was going through trouble of taking it to other shops...
And shouldn't the motherboard replacement fix the problem...or is it possible it was replaced with another faulty video chip, since they probably tried to match the same model?
Is it safe to say the hard disk is not the problem, but is actually this chip?
I don't know if I should go back to HP first about...Leave a comment:
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Hey, hey, hey, I just found this thread on HP dv4000 notebooks. This is exactly the problem I had! I had to place pressure on certain parts of the computer so it would stop freezing, and when it got really bad, had to tap on it. I never told anyone this, because it sounds so silly, like something on Green Acres...
There's some advice on [URL="http://www.notebookforums.com/thread178802.html"]this thread[/URL]...but nothing I'm probably capable of...
Based on this, is there anything I can...Last edited by jotham; 08-27-2010, 06:08 AM.Leave a comment:
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I'm not sure why I thought this. Maybe a missing sticker on the computer, or thought I remember seeing it on computer-store receipt.
I have a HP Pavilion dv4000 (s/n 2CE54400NM) (p/n EL111PA#AB0) (dv4222TX)
I looked at [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_Pavilion_(computer)"]wikipedia[/URL] and found this interesting, though my type isn't included:
I've had overheating problems too, which I previously thought was just another symptom of capacitor plague...Leave a comment:
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asked him about ubuntu and xubuntu too -- he doesn't know any of that stuff.Leave a comment:
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I went to Computer Shop A today (the one that replaced my motherboard at first, and then later discovered hard-disk problem). I told him that the HP guy thought there is problem with both the hard drive AND motherboard. He absolutely denies it is the MoBo and wanted to talk to that guy.
I then asked him about the BIOS setting, translating the advice you gave me. He then suggested I go back to Shop B (the one who originally fixed hubport(?) problem but then later thought operating system needed replaced.)...Leave a comment:
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But it gets pretty hot near the power button after 15 minutes or more of doing this.Leave a comment:
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no.
It just keeps repeating this message after starting,. like before:...Leave a comment:
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I tried this with my friend, but the jack didn't fit. At any rate, I think the HP Center and computer shops used their own power chord or just the battery without much change (though sometimes it seems to start better with chord than with battery), and I've also tried this with just the battery. Shouldn't this mean it couldn't be the power brick? -- unless it can somehow send along it's electrical bad karma to the battery.
May have someone help me implement some of these ideas soon. I'm afraid a screwdriver...Leave a comment:
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Oh, now I just realized, the power brick is outside the computer on the power chord. PCs don't have this, correct? So technicians can help me inspect that for faulty capacitors? Thanks,Leave a comment:
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Is that to say the power brick is separate from the MoBo and just might contain some of the same faulty (cylindrical?) capacitors common to PCs -- or is the brick just another part of the MoBo next to the power supply?
When looking at the MoBo with the technician, I told him the problem should be close to the power supply (which area was covered in many places), but I didn't know about the brick, and I thought everything I saw on the MoBo looked like the SMD tantalum capacitors. Did we look in the...Last edited by jotham; 08-22-2010, 11:07 PM.Leave a comment:
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The HP Center and computer shop ran a new hard disk and claimed that POST completes (before it wouldn't start), so I guess that would be the same thing, right? But I'm not sure they observed (or tried to observe) whether or not I was still having the cursor freezing/locking problem.
Anyhow, I don't know how to do most of this at home, but I'll print all the comments on this thread and highlight important parts to show tech-savvy friends and the technicians as well. Thx....Leave a comment:
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Okay, I'll go ahead to have that replaced. Let me fill you in with some other confusing (to me) details and tell me if anything makes you change your mind about this.
In April, everyone (HP center, computer shop A) said the problem was the MoBo, and no one at all talked about the hard disk. The MoBo was replaced by shop A in April, but still had problems.
Whereupon I took it back to HP center and told them about an additional message I kept getting when the cursor would freeze saying...Last edited by jotham; 08-22-2010, 09:11 AM.Leave a comment:
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Re: Are laptops affected by plague? How to identify?
Would a bad hard drive also cause my cursor to freeze and now the computer not starting at all? I've suspected (or wondered) all along that the problem is mainly electrical from which all other systems are affected.
Friday, the technician confirmed there is a problem not only with the hard disk but MoBo as well. The hard drive was never an issue until this month. So I wondered if it is a misdiagnosis or peripheral symptom.
At any rate, not too worried about that as they can replace...Last edited by jotham; 08-22-2010, 08:18 AM.Leave a comment:
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Thanks for your response. It's a little too technical for me now, but I'll keep reading it and checking terminology until I understand it....Leave a comment:
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When I read about this first time a few days ago, I was just sure this was my problem because none of the Taiwanese shops gave me any satisfactory explanations. They looked at it, merely told me motherboard needed replaced -- had it replaced once in May, but still same problems. I'm losing faith in them; I'm beginning to suspect they have no idea, but pretend like they do.
So I was thinking if I established that bad capacitors indeed were the culprit, I could ask HP to help remedy the situation, like Dell...Last edited by jotham; 08-22-2010, 07:09 AM.Leave a comment:
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monitor,
could you delete this thread? I posted it in the section dealing with identifying bad caps instead. Thanks...Leave a comment:
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Are laptops affected by plague? How to identify?
I have an HP Pentium 3 laptop bought in early 2006 showing almost all the symptoms of the plague (cursor intermittently freezes or completely locks up, computer won't POST at all, POST keeps rebooting, etc.) Living in Taiwan, I can't find many computer "experts" who have heard of this plague phenomena (which started here) or can even help me identify caps at all on my laptop MoBo. I'm not a computer expert, but I'd like to direct the "experts" here in Taiwan to help me find a solution.
1. Is the plague applicable to laptops? I've Googled and it seems laptops...
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