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chaphal3
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Last Activity: 12-06-2017, 09:07 AM
Joined: 10-21-2016
Location: Traverse City, MI
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  • Re: Advice needed: Dell 5150 blown ceramic SMD decoupling cap

    PSU was good so I tested and it boots! Thanks a ton for the comments which got me to remove it and try again. My dad's about to place an order from AllElectronics, should I just grab a 47nF cap to stick in there? In theory, would I want to undershoot on capacitance to make up for the inductance of adding leads (trying to keep the frequency similar), or overshoot (trying to prevent it from becoming overdamped)?

    I also threw some TIM in the shopping cart, I hope theirs isn't garbage.
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  • Re: Advice needed: Dell 5150 blown ceramic SMD decoupling cap

    It definitely popped exactly when I touched the heat sink it but thanks; I did in fact quickly test the power supply before then. I initially guessed that the PSU was gone due to condensation but all the voltages were perfect.

    I realized I couldn't actually test whether or not that cap had failed open or closed because of other devices between 12v and ground. Anyway I've pulled it now; still can't test the cap because it crumbled (I think more of the de-install was done by the tweezers than the soldering...
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    Last edited by chaphal3; 10-24-2016, 02:30 PM.

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  • Re: Advice needed: Dell 5150 blown ceramic SMD decoupling cap

    The system doesn't run now, so if it's non-essential would that mean either there's some detection that prevents booting (I think there was a beep code but I'm hesitant to check because of the ozone smell), or another component is bad? Or maybe do I need to remove it so it's not shorting to ground (I thought it had failed open and not closed but I'll check again)?

    I also read these need to be SMDs to reduce inductance. Is that just theory and in practice can I just use short leads? I know this question is...
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    Last edited by chaphal3; 10-24-2016, 01:12 PM.

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  • Re: Advice needed: Dell 5150 blown ceramic SMD decoupling cap

    Thanks, are those pretty much always .1? I just read a paper saying the "bypass" is usually .01-.1 uF. I guess I misremembered the datasheets I somehow found a few months ago and somehow cannot find now.

    I always thought a nice patina of dust gives electronics a nice Classic Look and Protection Against Longevity.
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  • Advice needed: Dell 5150 blown ceramic SMD decoupling cap

    Hi, I blew this cap by touching the heatsink while I was running the machine with no case. Apparently, suddenly changing from ungrounded to grounded while running a cpu can cause ESD. Who knew? The funny thing is I was had it open to investigate why it wouldn't boot, but all it needed was a CMOS battery, so when it started booting I got worried and held my hand "near" it to make sure it wasn't hot enough to melt the table it was on. I bumped it and: "pop", ozone smell, no more booting, lesson learned, I hope. It would be nice to get this running, as with some very cheap upgrades...
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    Last edited by chaphal3; 10-24-2016, 12:42 AM. Reason: new photo

  • Re: New Members - please post your introductions here

    Hello, I'm a bit newer in terms of experience at electronics repair. However, I've got a couple decades of taking them a part and putting at least, like, 10% of them back together under my belt.

    My current projects that might lead to questions here: Replacing a ceramic decoupling cap on a 10 year old Dell Dimension Mobo, Undiagnosed weird faults on a netbook, recently got a free 9 year old Celeron Vaio and have a $2 C2D in the mail for it, Messing around with with smartphone HMDs for VR or just reduced eye and neck...
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