Re: gas-powered irons? disadvantages?
phew, fortunately I will use it at home, with temperatures always below 30C.
ok, maybe the problem is that I refill it too much?. Well, I simply followed the instructions, i.e., I refill it pushing the bottle down until liquid butane overflows to my hand. so I don't think this should be a problem.
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Re: gas-powered irons? disadvantages?
thanks. can you specify if those irons that sputtered, did it at full gas?
mine sputters only at full gas, and after being refilled, because then, the pressure is higher and the flame is stronger....
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I can use my butane iron 2 ways:
1. with the tip capsule which includes the catalytic screen. then the flame goes out after a while, and the catalytic screen remains burning, no matter if there is sputtering in the gas stream. I can still hear the gas sputtering.
2. as a torch, without the capsule, and thus, without the catalytic screen. Then I can see the flame (3 cm long at maximum), and it is very fragile: if sputtering appears, then it goes out.
In any case, the sputtering noise is easily perceived.
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I couldn't find any cheap 80W online in Spain. Only 60W.
If I find a cheap 80W, I will buy it for the future.
The mobo seems to work ok now, so I will let it stay as it is.
I expect the other caps to fail eventually, and then I could try to use
the 80W if I have bought it.
I have run out of money now, so we will leave the Weller station for the future
Re. the Butane iron: I am having progresively better results now. Maybe it is because the second butane can is better than the first....Last edited by argaclock; 08-09-2006, 03:41 PM.
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Re: gas-powered irons? disadvantages?
yes, of course, I put solder for better transfer of heat, but the leg remained rock solid.
Those of you who recommended a 80W iron were totally right.
Now the mobo is working again, so I will stop experimenting (I don't want to fry it).
Someday if I get a discarded mobo, I will experiment on it, but not on this one.
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Re: gas-powered irons? disadvantages?
Hi, the 40W chinese electric iron didn't work for recapping my mobo.
It is not hot enough to remove the legs of the old capacitor.
I have bought the Velleman 50W soldering station, and it didn't work either.
I finally decided to leave the legs of the old capacitor in place, and solder the new one
there.
(in fact I already did this at the beginning, but one of the legs got broken and I wanted to do a decent repair)
I have also bought the Velleman butane iron torch but I am having problems: when...
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Today I have finally bought a 3 euro, 40W, chinese iron.
It is 2-wire, so I am going to modify it to a 3-wire one before attempting the recapping (grounding the chassis).
Tomorrow hopefully...
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those gas-powered glue-guns are so expensive compared with the electrical ones.
Fortunatelly, the gas-irons are comparable to the electrical irons.
@Gonzo:
7 euros for 2 irons, thats cheap.
Yes, I have been looking for cheap irons and found online 60 Watts irons for as low as 5 euros.
In my small town I don't think I can find anything like that.
I will try tomorrow.
In any case, I will buy a supercheap one. I don't mind if the tips get oxidized.
My iron is a 25W JBC, costed...
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@gonzo:
your 80Watt iron costed you 5€ only ???
or do you mean the spare tips?
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@Gonzo:
if the tip is too fine, you can always clip it, to get a thicker tip, no?
@arneson:
so these "hard to melt" joints are done of leadfree solder?
Do I need leadfree solder to solder the new cap?
@Willawake:
your butane has no temperature regulation?
and yes, the tip is wobbly because that open structure, but in normal butanes that is not the case.
And butane is expensive only if you are going to use it frequently.
@Arneson,
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at that price, I could buy the powered iron, yes.
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Hey, how about VELLEMAN irons? They are darn cheap.
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sorry, I mean, the butane with the iron tip... of course (not the hot air tip).
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yeah, I will get the hot air tip.
but, for recapping, will it work?
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@arneson:
so basically, the only problem with them is that you squash them?
thats no problem for me. I am going to use at home.
any other problem with these gas irons?
I see that they can also be used as "hot-air guns", or "flame guns".
also, they are cordless.
So these are big advantages.
Any disadvantage?
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@Willawake:
but 625ºC is the maximum temperature.
I will try the lowest temps first.
Is Antex a bad brand?
I only use the iron very seldom.
and I have very little money
So I don't need a PRO tool.
Willawake, how about Butane irons?
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Hi arneson:
sorry, I don't understand this part of your post (my native language is spanish):
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My complaint is that they don't stand up to my tool kit.
They will rupture, high heat in my car, and break, thrown around a bit.
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do you mean they are fragile?
on paper they look fantastic. I wonder why they are not more popular...??
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gas-powered irons? disadvantages?
Hello:
I am new here.
I have to recap an Asrock mobo, but my 25 Watt JBC iron can't de-solder the old cap. Its not hot enough.
I need to buy a new iron. How about a gas-powered iron? For example, the Gascat 60 by Antex? It is cheap (30 euros), and can reach 625ºC (variable temperature).
Also, they can be used with accessories (flame-output, etc) for other applications.
What is the drawback?
How do you refill the butane? is it very expensive?
thanks.
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