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  • Ancient1
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Dec 2019
    • 275
    • Israel

    #301
    Re: Can you dignose from the photo ? . Toshiba 65S2650EV

    locally I can get 0.22 Ohm 5W .
    Checking eBay , 0.23 n/a but 0.22 are common

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    • Davi.p
      Hobbist Tech
      • Sep 2009
      • 4318
      • Italy - Milan

      #302
      Re: Can you dignose from the photo ? . Toshiba 65S2650EV

      but i need to know the a actual resistance of the wire resistor even with the prolonges, with the most precise tester you have..

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      • Davi.p
        Hobbist Tech
        • Sep 2009
        • 4318
        • Italy - Milan

        #303
        Re: Can you dignose from the photo ? . Toshiba 65S2650EV

        when measuring don't touch both terminals with fingers..

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        • petehall347
          Badcaps Legend
          • Jan 2015
          • 4426
          • United Kingdom

          #304
          Re: Can you dignose from the photo ? . Toshiba 65S2650EV

          in case you didn't know already touch meter probes together first and any reading deduct from whatever the resistor reads ,
          also you could build a wheatstone bridge out of precise resistors .

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          • Davi.p
            Hobbist Tech
            • Sep 2009
            • 4318
            • Italy - Milan

            #305
            Re: Can you dignose from the photo ? . Toshiba 65S2650EV

            but thinking on there, normal meters have only 1 decimal so are not suitable for that task.. so try with the 0,22ohm but not 5w, them are unfit , to have got more room better 1w or 2w..

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            • Ancient1
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Dec 2019
              • 275
              • Israel

              #306
              Re: Can you dignose from the photo ? . Toshiba 65S2650EV

              My Meter has 3 places after the Decimal dot
              However, when measuring R of the Probes ( at their base, fingers not touching) : I get a fluctuating R , from 0.8 to about 3.5 , not fast but like every step is 1 second.

              I measured the Wire Resistor , isolated , in a Clamp : I did get slow fluctuation but longest time was on 0.8-0.9 .

              I can go and look for a Fluke at some shop .

              Davi.P : Perché non scrivere in italiano? Posso tradurre facilmente perché principalmente su un PC [ Why not write in Italian ? I can easily translate as I am on a PC mostly ]
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              Last edited by Ancient1; 03-10-2022, 10:27 AM.

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              • Davi.p
                Hobbist Tech
                • Sep 2009
                • 4318
                • Italy - Milan

                #307
                Re: Can you dignose from the photo ? . Toshiba 65S2650EV

                yes, depends which type of meter you have, if not auto range, need to know how many decimals you have in 200ohm scale, i guess you have only 1, so better to get 0,22 resistors, a fluke can cost 250euro 2nd hand to you, not for an hobbist!.. I can't talk in Italian cause the site is in English and also other users are following this thread, sorry..

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                • Ancient1
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Dec 2019
                  • 275
                  • Israel

                  #308
                  Re: Can you dignose from the photo ? . Toshiba 65S2650EV

                  nested problem solving : I actually have 3 DMMs. 1 old Analog, 1 cheap chinese that I can't get to work normally , and one digital 000.000 display. I'll try to fix the chinese or go sunday to a repair shop to get accurate reading.
                  translation :
                  [risoluzione dei problemi annidata: in realtà ho 3 DMM. 1 vecchio analogico, 1 cinese a buon mercato che non riesco a far funzionare normalmente e un display digitale da 000.000. Proverò a riparare il cinese o andrò domenica in un'officina per ottenere una lettura accurata.]

                  P 3 x 0.23 => 0.08 R , and 0.22 give 0.07
                  is 3 in parallel the only way to get this 0.07 R ?
                  translation
                  [P 3 x 0,23 => 0,08 R e 0,22 danno 0,07
                  è 3 in parallelo l'unico modo per ottenere questo 0,07 R? ]
                  Last edited by Ancient1; 03-11-2022, 05:27 AM.

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                  • Davi.p
                    Hobbist Tech
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 4318
                    • Italy - Milan

                    #309
                    Re: Can you dignose from the photo ? . Toshiba 65S2650EV

                    Please don't translate, i can do it by myself, 0,22 is the best way to obtain it, if you hav 6 digits meter then is the best so why not to use it? 3x0,23 are not 0,8 , the formula is 1/(1/R1+1/R2+1/R3), if you find a better combination let me know, 3x0,22 gives 0,73, 3x0,23 gives 0,76, not precise as 0,75

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                    • Ancient1
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Dec 2019
                      • 275
                      • Israel

                      #310
                      Re: Can you dignose from the photo ? . Toshiba 65S2650EV

                      I used online calc.
                      My Digital Multi Meter (DMM) has 4 places. As I said , I get fluctuations.
                      I'll go to a tech shop tomorrow, ask them to measure

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                      • Ancient1
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Dec 2019
                        • 275
                        • Israel

                        #311
                        Re: Can you dignose from the photo ? . Toshiba 65S2650EV

                        Been to Tech Shop , Fluke , he got 0 , couldn't measure.

                        I doubt I can buy 0.22 localy (haifa), I will call tel-aviv tomorrow , see if I can get faster than aliexpress . I understand that the 5W , blocky, resistors are not good ( why) , and that I need to find 2W max

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                        • Davi.p
                          Hobbist Tech
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 4318
                          • Italy - Milan

                          #312
                          Re: Can you dignose from the photo ? . Toshiba 65S2650EV

                          i don't know if you have room for 3x5w..

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                          • Ancient1
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Dec 2019
                            • 275
                            • Israel

                            #313
                            Re: Can you dignose from the photo ? . Toshiba 65S2650EV

                            Tel Aviv store has 0.22 2W. But they don't send by mail.
                            So its time to call my cousin ...

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                            • Ancient1
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Dec 2019
                              • 275
                              • Israel

                              #314
                              Re: Can you dignose from the photo ? . Toshiba 65S2650EV

                              They were bought. Now delivery.. hopefully soon

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                              • Ancient1
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Dec 2019
                                • 275
                                • Israel

                                #315
                                Re: Can you dignose from the photo ? . Toshiba 65S2650EV

                                Hi

                                I got 3 the resistors , measured and installed - see photo.

                                No Luck

                                I will carefully inspect the board again, maybe I missed something
                                and than probably order a new PSU , I owe it to you guys , esp. Davi.P
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                                • Davi.p
                                  Hobbist Tech
                                  • Sep 2009
                                  • 4318
                                  • Italy - Milan

                                  #316
                                  Re: Can you dignose from the photo ? . Toshiba 65S2650EV

                                  you can try put back the original wire resistor, desolder r37, solder 2 wires on its pads, between those you put in series a through hole resistor same as r37, and a trimmer starting with lowest value and try increasing in many tries..

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                                  • Ancient1
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Dec 2019
                                    • 275
                                    • Israel

                                    #317
                                    Re: Can you dignose from the photo ? . Toshiba 65S2650EV

                                    I think have 1-1k trimmer. With R37 ( code 562 ) being 5600 Ohm, I think maybe I should use a lower value resistor , so I can get values above and below 5600 Ohm ?

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                                    • Davi.p
                                      Hobbist Tech
                                      • Sep 2009
                                      • 4318
                                      • Italy - Milan

                                      #318
                                      Re: Can you dignose from the photo ? . Toshiba 65S2650EV

                                      you don't have to lower the r37 but only increase, so put a 5k6 resistor in series with trimmer.

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                                      • Ancient1
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                                        • Dec 2019
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                                        #319
                                        Re: Can you dignose from the photo ? . Toshiba 65S2650EV

                                        I don't have a larger watt Resistor.. I'll rig some cooling fins .. and hope
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                                        • Davi.p
                                          Hobbist Tech
                                          • Sep 2009
                                          • 4318
                                          • Italy - Milan

                                          #320
                                          Re: Can you dignose from the photo ? . Toshiba 65S2650EV

                                          larger watt?? who have said that? that in pic goes well, it's a 1/4w..

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