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  • xoicorez
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    • Apr 2021
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    #1

    Sharp LC-40LE810UN Zero Power

    After reading the existing threads on here, I'm still not sure where the problem is exactly. There is no backlight and no standby light when it is plugged in. I don't have much experience working with electronics on this level.

    Based on the previous threads (1 , 2) , I've measured these items on the board:



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    Last edited by xoicorez; 04-30-2021, 01:35 PM.
  • budm
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    • Feb 2010
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    #2
    Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN Zero Power

    So right now with just power supply board connected to AC. Do you get any DCV on the power supply connector pins that goes to the main board?
    The connector has name for each pin so make sure to put down the pin name and follow by the Voltage reading for each pin.
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    • xoicorez
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      #3
      Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN Zero Power

      I'm not sure which connector that is? Is it PD?

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      • nomoresonys
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        #4
        Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN Zero Power

        Yes PD.

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        • xoicorez
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          #5
          Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN Zero Power

          Pin 1 - 1 going down to 0
          Pin 2 to 10 - 0
          Pin 11 - 4.9
          Pin 12 0.1
          Last edited by xoicorez; 04-30-2021, 03:26 PM.

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          • dick_barton
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            • Aug 2015
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            #6
            Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN Zero Power

            Are you certain that measurement D was 19 ohms and not 19 Kohms?
            Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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            • budm
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              #7
              Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN Zero Power

              Originally posted by xoicorez
              Pin 1 - 1 going down to 0
              Pin 2 to 10 - 0
              Pin 11 - 4.9
              Pin 12 0.1
              To get 16V (C) for the running Voltage for the SMPS circuit, it means that standby power supply is running, that is why you do have standby 5V on pin 11, no need to check anything in that hot side of that power supply section.

              As I indicate, PD connector has pin name so you need to put down pin name follow by the Voltage reading so we can easily see what it has does not have for each pin. Also PD connector has 24 pins, so you need to report them all, the exposed pins you can see from the top side of the board are ODD number pins.
              Never stop learning
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              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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              TV Factory reset codes listing:
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              • xoicorez
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                #8
                Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN Zero Power

                Originally posted by budm
                To get 16V (C) for the running Voltage for the SMPS circuit, it means that standby power supply is running, that is why you do have standby 5V on pin 11, no need to check anything in that hot side of that power supply section.

                As I indicate, PD connector has pin name so you need to put down pin name follow by the Voltage reading so we can easily see what it has does not have for each pin. Also PD connector has 24 pins, so you need to report them all, the exposed pins you can see from the top side of the board are ODD number pins.

                There is only 12 pins on PD?

                Last edited by xoicorez; 05-01-2021, 01:59 PM.

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                • budm
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                  #9
                  Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN Zero Power

                  OK, I just look at the label of the connector below where they print the pin names of the PD connector, I see now that connector is LB, not PD, sorry about that, I have a hard time seeing the pictures clearly.
                  So at this point since you do have standby Voltage to run the main board, so you need to put connectors back in place and check the PD pin Voltages again then hit the power switch to see if any of PD pins (UR13V, AC_DET, PS-ON, PNL_POW) Voltages change state or not.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • xoicorez
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                    #10
                    Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN Zero Power

                    .
                    Last edited by xoicorez; 05-01-2021, 02:12 PM.

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                    • xoicorez
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                      #11
                      Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN Zero Power

                      Originally posted by budm
                      OK, I just look at the label of the connector below where they print the pin names of the PD connector, I see now that connector is LB, not PD, sorry about that, I have a hard time seeing the pictures clearly.
                      So at this point since you do have standby Voltage to run the main board, so you need to put connectors back in place and check the PD pin Voltages again then hit the power switch to see if any of PD pins (UR13V, AC_DET, PS-ON, PNL_POW) Voltages change state or not.
                      The voltages do not change.

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                      • budm
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                        #12
                        Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN Zero Power

                        So UR13V, AC_DET, PS-ON, PNL_POW all show 0V?

                        If AC_DET is 0V then that will lock out the other control Voltages, AC_DET should be about 3V for normal operation.
                        Last edited by budm; 05-01-2021, 02:18 PM.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • xoicorez
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                          #13
                          Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN Zero Power

                          Originally posted by budm
                          So UR13V, AC_DET, PS-ON, PNL_POW all show 0V?

                          If AC_DET is 0V then that will lock out the other control Voltages, AC_DET should be about 3V for normal operation.
                          Sorry, the measurements were incorrect since I didn't connect PD.

                          UR13V - 12.5 to 0

                          AC_DET - 0

                          PS-ON - 2 to 0

                          PNL-POW - 0.09 to 0.12
                          Last edited by xoicorez; 05-01-2021, 02:22 PM.

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                          • xoicorez
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                            #14
                            Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN Zero Power

                            I am now reading the old thread and understanding it more. I think I need to replace the optocouplers, PC7703?

                            Would this work?

                            They are PC817C but the optocouplers on my board are Cosmo PC817H. They have different CTR based on this PDF?

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                            • budm
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                              #15
                              Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN Zero Power

                              Originally posted by xoicorez
                              Sorry, the measurements were incorrect since I didn't connect PD.

                              UR13V - 12.5 to 0

                              AC_DET - 0

                              PS-ON - 2 to 0

                              PNL-POW - 0.09 to 0.12
                              I do not understand the reading of XX to YY.
                              Are you saying when TV is off but plugged into the AC outlet is, I.E. UR13V is 0V when TV is OFF, when TV is on it goes to 12.5V?
                              Are you also 1005 sure that AC_DET is always at 0V?
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • xoicorez
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                                • Apr 2021
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                                #16
                                Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN Zero Power

                                Originally posted by budm
                                I do not understand the reading of XX to YY.
                                Are you saying when TV is off but plugged into the AC outlet is, I.E. UR13V is 0V when TV is OFF, when TV is on it goes to 12.5V?
                                Are you also 1005 sure that AC_DET is always at 0V?
                                Yes, that is correct. When I press the power button when it is plugged into the AC outlet, UR13V jumps to 12.5 but drops to 0. PNL-POW maintains 0.12 then drops to 0.09 when power button is pressed, but goes back to 0.12.

                                I measured AC_DET again and it is always at 0.

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                                • budm
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN Zero Power

                                  Originally posted by xoicorez
                                  I am now reading the old thread and understanding it more. I think I need to replace the optocouplers, PC7703?

                                  Would this work?

                                  They are PC817C but the optocouplers on my board are Cosmo PC817H. They have different CTR based on this PDF?

                                  Is there CTR marking on the OPTO on your board?
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • budm
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                                    • Feb 2010
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN Zero Power

                                    And what DCV do you get when measure between pin 3 and 4 of the OPTO?
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • xoicorez
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN Zero Power

                                      Originally posted by budm
                                      Is there CTR marking on the OPTO on your board?
                                      The CTR marking on the opto is H, I believe. It's the bottom letter.

                                      Do you suspect the opto is the issue with those readings on PD?

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                                      • xoicorez
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN Zero Power

                                        The CTR marking on my board isn't on the PDF for some reason.



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